What do you think of the EPCOT Central Spine redesign?

trainplane3

trainplane3

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marni1971 said:
I will add certain social media posts are calling breaking news that a hotel might be built in area A and that the bus station might be impacted.

Didn’t I say this last year?
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Why am I not surprised that one of them is clickbait boy;)? They basically copied BlogMickey's article.

And yes, you mentioned it several times. That's why I'm surprised it took the sites so long to pick up on it.
 
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CalebS

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marni1971 said:
I will add certain social media posts are calling breaking news that a hotel might be built in area A and that the bus station might be impacted.

Didn’t I say this last year?
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You certainly did. Are there currently any plans that involve expanding future world with a new ride rather than a retheme or redo of a current ride?
 
MisterPenguin

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trainplane3 said:
The thing that annoys me about the IP takeover is having it shoved in your face for months on end thanks to the movie and then having a ride stuck in a park where it doesn't belong. Others don't probably won't share my same opinion on this, but Nemo being added to the Seas wasn't a jam job. It fit the role of the pavilion, to preserve sea life and how you can do your part. It even may have saved the pavilion. Yes it still shouldn't be in FW, but they didn't nuke the idea of the real life consequences of harming the oceans. It just has a mascot many people recognize to deliver its message.

Then you have Frozen stuck in Norway instead of refreshing Maelstrom (it did need it, no secret there) and building a dedicated ride that would do the movie justice. You literally turned Norway into a cheap, low effort, Frozen Land. I haven't set foot in Norway since being down there when Frozen opened.
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The irony is that FEA is, by itself, considering the constrictions it was under space-wise, is a fine dark ride. Meanwhile, the Nemo ride, though it thematically fit better, is one of the worst rides in all of WDW for execution and story.

I don't care so much for the thematic locale as getting a good ride. In that regard FEA is so much better than Nemo.
 
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smile

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MisterPenguin said:
The irony is that FEA is, by itself, considering the constrictions it was under space-wise, is a fine dark ride. Meanwhile, the Nemo ride, though it thematically fit better, is one of the worst rides in all of WDW for execution and story.

I don't care so much for the thematic locale as getting a good ride. In that regard FEA is so much better than Nemo.
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agreed...
well, except about the thematic locale part - should never be either/or, and if it is, back to the drawing board with you!
actually attempt some thematic synergy, perhaps... part of the job, methinks - quick cash grabs don't take long to look like quick cash grabs... seas!




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TabulaRasa

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marni1971 said:
I will add certain social media posts are calling breaking news that a hotel might be built in area A and that the bus station might be impacted.

Didn’t I say this last year?
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You did. Do these permits seem to indicate the option you were okay with or the option you were fearful of?
 
EvilChameleon

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I will say the article on the site that shan't be named was written so horribly that I had no clue by the end of it where the rumored hotel was going to be. The BlogMickey post was much better.
 
trainplane3

trainplane3

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EvilChameleon said:
I will say the article on the site that shan't be named was written so horribly that I had no clue by the end of it where the rumored hotel was going to be. The BlogMickey post was much better.
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Well that's what happens when you rush to get the news out first. Except he wasn't even first. And a poor article still came out of it. BlogMickey seems to be a good news site to read since they don't seem to rush everything out and steal sources.
 
EricsBiscuit

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Imagineerland said:
Thanks for sharing. Almost didn't notice this here. Yeah this is just something I put together for fun and to work out some ideas. I'm sure there are some ideas that some would disagree with, but I am happy with it and surprised that it showed up here in a real discussion.



Good to know. So I guess a single curved wall that looks out to "space" instead of a round restaurant like I assumed. I had no idea about the shape so put in a guess just to have something in place.



Yeah Brazil is definitely more realistic right now, so I just wanted to explore something different and unexpected for fun. I'd rather wait and see what actually happens with Brazil than make my own version now and change it later. So I picked Saudi Arabia for this because I thought the Middle East was under represented, its a unique country and culture, and has the Aladdin tie in. It's not perfect, but it was fun to think up some options before we see what actually happens in the coming years.
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I love your blog! But when I try to zoom in on the maps on mobile it always takes me to another page!
MisterPenguin said:
The irony is that FEA is, by itself, considering the constrictions it was under space-wise, is a fine dark ride. Meanwhile, the Nemo ride, though it thematically fit better, is one of the worst rides in all of WDW for execution and story.

I don't care so much for the thematic locale as getting a good ride. In that regard FEA is so much better than Nemo.
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I like Nemo! It's a nice little diversion.
 
trainplane3

trainplane3

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EricsBiscuit said:
I love your blog! But when I try to zoom in on the maps on mobile it always takes me to another page!
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I haven't visited the site on mobile but try holding down on the image, choose "open in new tab" then it should work. Mobile blog sites typically take a zoom as a swipe.

Edit: Yep, exactly what I thought it was. Mobile Blogspot has built in gestures. It doesn't recognize zoom because it only knows swipes. So you need to open the image in a new tab and make sure the url ends with .jpg (or whatever image format they're using). Then you'll be able to zoom as much as you'd like.
 
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Kman101

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Inside Out and BH6 are now "old IPs"? LOL. Come on. Snow White got a coaster 70 years into her run and Mermaid got a ride 20 years into her run. It doesn't matter.

And if Inside Out and BH6's characters weren't in a movie and created just for "IPcot" (which has used home grown IP from the start so what's the problem, why is a movie tie-in terrible?), I see no problem. So why is it a problem if they're used? Just because they were in a movie? Just because some people have decided IP is a dirty word? It seems silly to me.

Yes, some IP hasn't been leveraged well. I know we want to stick stubbornly to the NO IP in Epcot, but what if Figment had a movie and was then put into Epcot? That would have been just fine in 1983? It's no different here.

Guardians, yes, that's the WRONG IP for the park. (I'm not thrilled with Frozen in the park)

Ratatouille, Inside Out, Big Hero 6, Coco (I'm willing to accept Mary Poppins but I think Brave would have been the more correct choice, but I hands down would prefer Mary) .... I think these are just fine for EPCOT. And no one would blink if they didn't have a movie tie-in. Food Rocks, Figment, Cranium Command ... what if they were all movies before being put into Epcot? Why can't IPs be used if they fit the park? It just seems so stubborn to me, but to each their own. I don't see wasting energy on getting so angsty over certain characters/IPs used in Epcot. The shark has long been jumped. I see no harm in blending reality with fantasy in World Showcase.

Using characters isn't (and frankly, shouldn't be) the problem. How they use them has been the problem.

I'd love 1982-1994ish Epcot Center to make a comeback. I didn't develop the childhood nostalgia for the park but I still love what it WAS and what it could be again, but, I think it's time to accept it isn't the park it once was and accept it for what it is now. Characters have long been here, and they aren't going away. So for me, I want good implementation. Not Nemo in the Seas screaming where's Nemo or being fed that Peter Quill visited Epcot. Guardians is a problem. Inside Out, BH6, Coco, Rat ... those shouldn't be. Again though, this is all IMO.

So, when Figment gets a movie (sadly probably never gonna happen), he should move out of Epcot, right?

It's actually a real shame they haven't leveraged Inside Out and BH6 for more than a meet and greet at Epcot. They're perfect for "IPcot" and yet ... nothing. But hey, let's shove Guardians in there when we have two other places that work for it better (Tomorrowland, depending on it's direction, and DHS)
 
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marni1971

marni1971

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Kman101 said:
Inside Out and BH6 are now "old IPs"? LOL. Come on. Snow White got a coaster 70 years into her run and Mermaid got a ride 20 years into her run. It doesn't matter.

And if Inside Out and BH6's characters weren't in a movie and created just for "IPcot" (which has used home grown IP from the start so what's the problem, why is a movie tie-in terrible?), I see no problem. So why is it a problem if they're used? Just because they were in a movie? Just because some people have decided IP is a dirty word? It seems silly to me.

Yes, some IP hasn't been leveraged well. I know we want to stick stubbornly to the NO IP in Epcot, but what if Figment had a movie and was then put into Epcot? That would have been just fine in 1983? It's no different here.

Guardians, yes, that's the WRONG IP for the park. (I'm not thrilled with Frozen in the park)

Ratatouille, Inside Out, Big Hero 6, Coco (I'm willing to accept Mary Poppins but I think Brave would have been the more correct choice, but I hands down would prefer Mary) .... I think these are just fine for EPCOT. And no one would blink if they didn't have a movie tie-in. Food Rocks, Figment, Cranium Command ... what if they were all movies before being put into Epcot? Why can't IPs be used if they fit the park? It just seems so stubborn to me, but to each their own. I don't see wasting energy on getting so angsty over certain characters/IPs used in Epcot. The shark has long been jumped. I see no harm in blending reality with fantasy in World Showcase.

Using characters isn't (and frankly, shouldn't be) the problem. How they use them has been the problem.

I'd love 1982-1994ish Epcot Center to make a comeback. I didn't develop the childhood nostalgia for the park but I still love what it WAS and what it could be again, but, I think it's time to accept it isn't the park it once was and accept it for what it is now. Characters have long been here, and they aren't going away. So for me, I want good implementation. Not Nemo in the Seas screaming where's Nemo or being fed that Peter Quill visited Epcot. Guardians is a problem. Inside Out, BH6, Coco, Rat ... those shouldn't be. Again though, this is all IMO.

So, when Figment gets a movie (sadly probably never gonna happen), he should move out of Epcot, right?

It's actually a real shame they haven't leveraged Inside Out and BH6 for more than a meet and greet at Epcot. They're perfect for "IPcot" and yet ... nothing. But hey, let's shove Guardians in there when we have two other places that work for it better (Tomorrowland, depending on it's direction, and DHS)
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No more movie tie in IPs in Epcot. Enough already. How about some originality like we used to have?

How’s that?
 

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