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What caused them to do a ride (Splash Mountain) based on a movie they weren't releasing?
- Thread starter Walt Disney1955
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He did a great job playing to the animation (that wasn't there when they filmed him).
Chef Mickey
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I disagree...people make simple hints too complex by citing
Gotta love sighting the exception to make your case about a failed judicial system. No system is perfect but I'm pretty sure you're better off under America's judicial system.
No, seriously, tell that to the Central Park 5.
Phonedave
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The only major change in the entire ride is this scene..
And Brer rabbit was in tar from the film...
I read the Uncle Remus stories when I was a kid, and for some reason, the idea of a tar baby stuck in my head. Maybe because I had no idea what a tar baby was. I thought it was something more that just what it sounded like, a bunch of tar molded to look like a baby. Also, again for some reason in my 8 y/o mind, the sound that Brer Rabbit made when he punched and kicked the tar baby "blip!" stuck in my head.
Fast foward about 10 years to my first trip to Disney World, and I get on Splash Mountain. The one thing I remember from the books - the tar baby, is not at all present in the ride.
The book I had even had a picture of it. Some sort of button nosed thing with a hat and a flannel shirt. That confused me too. Lots of things apparently confused me when I was a kid - like Star Wars Stromtroopers. I thought they were either robots or cyborgs for some reason.
-dave
xdan0920
Think for yourselfer
So did I. It was ingrained in my subconscious that they were not people. So much so, that when Finn took of his helmet is ANH, I was temporarily disoriented. What the heck is a person doing inside that robot?
Matt_Black
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The American prison system has one of the highest recidivism rates in the world, meaning that people who serve in prison are likely to commit crimes again once released. If our system WAS in fact "the best" that rate would be much lower, as it would serve as both a deterrent to future offenders and a means of rehabilitation for current offenders.
Dead2009
Horror Movie Guru
Fairest? I wouldnt go THAT far. There have been plenty of cases where a defendant has been found guilty of a crime they never committed.
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Matt_Black
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Or encouraged to plead guilty to a lesser charge even though they're innocent of either simply because they can't afford a good attorney.
HMF
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They also don't mention that in the Roman scene depicted in SSE the senator and soldier are supposedly having a conversation about overthrowing and assassinating the Emperor.
Cmdr_Crimson
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Disney seriously needs to take lessons from Warner Brothers.
Where have you been? The Walt Disney Treasures collections have Leonard Maltin explain about each short and it's situations that reflected the time as a fair warning....
The only time I ever saw the Song of the South was when I was a kid and the only thing I remember from it was Brer Rabbit, I can't recall what or if the human actors had to do with the story at all... So you thinking their is no connection between the ride and movie plot is only you opinion... to me they are one and the same.... just depends on what you remember from the movie.
HMF
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True, but SOTS was never released as part of the "Treasures" line.
Cmdr_Crimson
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Goofyernmost
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I will say once again. Brer Rabbit was in the movie Song of the South. The stories of Uncle Remus and Brer Rabbit are years older then the movie. The movie, although you don't remember it, was about kid that had the misfortune of being in a very dysfunctional family, they incorporated Brer Rabbit as a way of story tell to get the boy to understand what things to value. So yes, in that respect it was part of the movie, BUT, everything in Splash Mountain could still be there without the movie ever happening with the exception of some of the music, which could have been written when the built the ride. They weren't and having songs like Zip A Dee, which was already a very popular, well known piece of music, made the ride fun and familiar. The stories were only a small part of the movie and not original stories at all. They were probably a hundred years old before they ever made it into the movie.
You are clearly missing the act that a movie can contain multiple stories, can have multiple plots. The Brer Rabbit stories were in the movie and for that reason alone they are a part of the movie and their plots are plots in the movie. Do you think a movie can only have one plot and a single story? Because your original statement, "Again, there is nothing in the ride the is connected in any way to the movie plot." is just flat out wrong.
Goofyernmost
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And you are clearly missing my point as well. Whatever, go with what you want. If it makes you feel better to think that Splash Mountain is themed based on the movie SotS, by all means do it. It doesn't matter. All you have to do is imagine that the movie was based on Uncle Remus to see the difference. It's like saying that PoTC is based on the movie of the same name.
Chef Mickey
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I know what recidivism means. I never said the rehabilitation process was good. I said bad guys go to prison and most of them go because they are guilty.
Chef Mickey
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Again, citing the exception doesn't make the whole system crumble. The system is by far the best system in that proving guilt is a far greater burden on the prosecution and reasonable doubt is a huge advantage for the defendant. The rights of the defendant ensure that most of the time, and innocent person doesn't go to prison.
OF COURSE, it happens...but I'd challenge you to conjure a better system that never fails and indeed succeeds as often.
