What are everyone's thoughts on Walt Disney?

sublimesting

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It's "Animated Man: A Life of Walt Disney" by J. Michael Barrier.

Do you mean "Walt Disney: The Triumph of the American Imagination" by Neal Gabler?

Both had good Amazon reviews. I originally bought the book for my wife as she wanted a Disney biography. I did quite a bit of research on the best books and this one seemed to get very good reviews for being objective and balanced. Even the detractors say it is historically spot on acurate and very well researched.


I just discovered that Barrier's website has a listing of the errors in Gabler's book.
 

Wilt Dasney

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I just discovered that Barrier's website has a listing of the errors in Gabler's book.

are there alot? what's the link? I didn't see it in this thread...

http://www.michaelbarrier.com/Commentary/Gabler/GablerErrata.htm

I've read it before, and my impression was Barrier had a bit of an ax to grind because Gabler's book got such positive press and his was essentially ignored by the media. The errors seemed like the kind of piddly stuff that's bound to slip into any factual manuscript of serious length...but judge for yourself.
 

goreesha

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I've read both Gabler's and Barriers books on Walt (as well as the Bob Thomas book on Roy), and I have to say, even when they are being unflattering to Walt, I was really inspired by the man I read about. Yes, he could be moody, demanding, a perfectionist, but his vision, tenacity, creative genius and integrity really inspired me. If he was a rascal, as Bill Melendez charges, then he was the best kind of rascal.

My favorite quote about him, which I posted elsewhere on this board, is from Ward Kimball: "If you want to know the real secret of Walt's success, it's that he never tried to make money. He was always trying to make something that he could have fun with or be proud of."

Sounds like a good life plan to me. Think I'll make that my life's quote, as well.
 

peterpanic74

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Having read both books, I would argue that Gabler's is both better written, and actually, IMO, paints a more positive picture of both Walt and his work. Barrier has nothing negative to say about Walt himself or his personal life, but he doesn't seem terribly impressed by Walt's creations. He is particularly dismissive of both MARY POPPINS and Disneyland, which I take issue with. On the other hand, Gabler extols the value of both, and makes a good case for their status as two of Disney's great works.

Different strokes for different folks, I guess.
 

sublimesting

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http://www.michaelbarrier.com/Commentary/Gabler/GablerErrata.htm

I've read it before, and my impression was Barrier had a bit of an ax to grind because Gabler's book got such positive press and his was essentially ignored by the media. The errors seemed like the kind of piddly stuff that's bound to slip into any factual manuscript of serious length...but judge for yourself.


It does seem that way but he does also list his own errors and corrections for Animated Man. http://www.michaelbarrier.com/Barrier_Books/animated_man_errata.htm
Among them are this little snipette I find fascinating:

After London, where the brothers visited Mickey Mouse Ltd., a branch of the Disney company which they founded in 1933, they continued on to Paris, where Disney was named to the Legion d'Honneur, in recognition of Mickey Mouse as a symbol of international good will. By auto they then went on to Germany. Their first stop was in Munich where Die Lustige Palette [a collection of six Disney shorts] was being shown.

By coincidence, at this particular time the German film makers were holding a meeting which included for the first time representatives from foreign film studios, including the U.S. and England. It is not unlikely that at this meeting the Disney brothers were informed about the status of American films in Germany. The presence of the American Disney company in Munich was not unknown to the NS [National Socialist, or Nazi] leadership in Berlin. At the invitation of these gentlemen [i.e., the Berlin authorities], Walt Disney was flown in a government plane for a short visit to Berlin. Unfortunately it could not be determined with whom he met while in the capital.
 

_Scar

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He is one of my idols, I keep a picture of him on my desk. He was a great man with a great dream and there is way more evidence that he was not a racist, so I don't by that crap for a second. I have two pictures on my desk one is Walt Disney and the other is ROnald Regan.



Both were at Disneyland opening day :lol::animwink:
 

sublimesting

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Both were at Disneyland opening day :lol::animwink:

Ronald Reagan, kind of. He was just an out-of-work actor the day Disneyland opened in 1955, and Disney hired him to host a live telecast of the park’s opening. He may not have been a regular cast member, but Disney included him when they recognized all first-day cast members by giving them a lifetime membership to the exclusive Club 55 (not to be confused with Club 33, which anyone can eventually join if they have enough money).
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This is a really cool site I just found!
http://disneyandmore.blogspot.com/2008/02/disneyland-famous-celebrities-part.html
 

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