Wetland Use Expansion Permit

[dreamfinder]

Yes. I am not sure how the current law is written, but there was a time where it was quite common for a company to buy a section of near worthless property in the middle of nowhere, have it designated as preserved wetlands so they could build on a section of property already designated as wetlands in a more favorable area.

I am pretty sure that this law was revised in such a manor that it required the new property to be adjacent to the old one, but I am not 100% sure on that.

Wasn't this how the Disney Wilderness Preserve (http://www.nature.org/ourinitiative...sweprotect/the-disney-wilderness-preserve.xml) was formed? Similar exemptions for some other expansions?

 

[asianway]

The rumored third-party hotels at Flamingo Crossing?

Might be the relocated cast surplus store. @WDW1974 favorite place to shop!

 

[Mike S]

5th gate 5th gate!

I'll say it first.

My thunder, you've stolen it

To the topic at hand I wonder what this could possibly be for. Is it as simple as just having the ability to use land in the future? I highly doubt something is being considered right now that would use 350 acres.

 

[Master Yoda]

Wasn't this how the Disney Wilderness Preserve (http://www.nature.org/ourinitiative...sweprotect/the-disney-wilderness-preserve.xml) was formed? Similar exemptions for some other expansions?

Sounds logical, but I do not know for sure.

 

[Mouse Trap]

Since we're having fun with this...what could possibly fit in an area of about .5 square miles?

 

[danlb_2000]

The rumored third-party hotels at Flamingo Crossing?

No those are already accounted for in the RCID plan.

 

[danlb_2000]

Is something going to be mentioned at tomorrow's third quarter report???

Let's not get ahead of ourselves! Even if they had concrete plans to use this new land, which they might not, this permit was just filed so they have a ways to go before they could do anything with the wetlands.

 

[danlb_2000]

Since we're having fun with this...what could possibly fit in an area of about .5 square miles?

That question really isn't relevant here since it wouldn't be .5 square miles of contiguous space, it would likely me small sections of wetland adjacent to existing developed land or land that is already suitable for development.

 

[Bob]

That question really isn't relevant here since it wouldn't be .5 square miles of contiguous space, it would likely me small sections of wetland adjacent to existing developed land or land that is already suitable for development.

If that is the case, it has to be a bunch of DVC teepees, lean-tos and wigwams.

 

[danlb_2000]

Let's not get ahead of ourselves! Even if they had concrete plans to use this new land, which they might not, this permit was just filed so they have a ways to go before they could do anything with the wetlands.

Also note that the permit says: "Additional impacts [the 350 acres] are necessary to accommodate expected expansion over the next 20 years."

 

[tahqa]

According to the 2009 Master Plan "Parcel 4" was already owned by Disney, so this isn't just about purchasing new adjacent property.

 

[danlb_2000]

According to the 2009 Master Plan "Parcel 4" was already owned by Disney, so this isn't just about purchasing new adjacent property.

All 5 of the parcels being added to RCID are already owned by Disney. I am not sure what the deal with Parcel 4 is, since as you say, it is already part of the plan.

 

[donsullivan]

Wasn't this how the Disney Wilderness Preserve (http://www.nature.org/ourinitiative...sweprotect/the-disney-wilderness-preserve.xml) was formed? Similar exemptions for some other expansions?

Yes, that's exactly how that was formed on a property that was previously known as Walker Ranch. In that scenario it was to allow them to fill in some wetlands for the development of Celebration and the guarantee to maintain that non-adjacent property in it's native state was the concession to get the approval to fill in other wetlands within Celebration Improvement District.

 

[RayTheFirefly]

Also note that the permit says: "Additional impacts [the 350 acres] are necessary to accommodate expected expansion over the next 20 years."

 

[jdmdisney99]

It's definitely for EPCOT. Walt's EPCOT.

No, but seriously, it does seem they thought to make sure they set up options for the future...which isn't usually TDO's mindset. :shrug:

 

[DznyGrlSD]

This thread just made my day. Nothing better than coming to WDW Magic on a crappy Monday for a giggle.

 

[wdwfan4ver]

5th gate 5th gate!

I'll say it first.

It's not for that. It's for more DVC's.
Sorry, I had to say that first.

 

[danlb_2000]

5th gate 5th gate!

I'll say it first.

I think they will just put a strobe light on it... Oops, sorry, getting my Disney message boards tropes mixed up.

 

[muteki]

According to the 2009 Master Plan "Parcel 4" was already owned by Disney, so this isn't just about purchasing new adjacent property.

If anything, it shows how what is written in the "Master Plans" can change overnight.

 

[Figment2005]

Since we're having fun with this...what could possibly fit in an area of about .5 square miles?

If it is all connected, Epcot is around 300 acres. That should give you a size comparison.