We're Back! - DisneyJunkie's Jan 24 - Jan 31, 2009 Trip Report

Well, we're home! We got back to our town around 1:30 this morning, unloaded the car and headed home and our heads didn't touch our own pillows in our own bed until around 2:00 am.

What a trip we just came back from......it certainly was a unique experience, I'll put it that way. Our normal trip is just my DW and I (we have no children nor plans for any, either) and this time we had a single mother friend come along with her two children (ages 3 & 10), and another friend as well who stayed with them.

I will preface this official report by categorically stating that I will NEVER take another WDW with anyone who has kids under the age of 15. Period. I'm done with that. Between the constant "I want this, this, this, this...." in every park and every shop we stopped in (both kids) to the 10-year-old throwing a crying fit just as she's about to go on a ride, and the mother not doing enough to disciple her kids, I was going out of my mind with aggravation. My wife was, as well.

Now.....our vacation took advantage of the "buy 4 nights, get 3 free" deal that was going on and we managed to book a stay at the Caribbean Beach Resort (staying in the Aruba area) and we had the 7 day park hoppers and the dining plan as well. We drove down and back and I think it was a wise decision to refrain from going to the park right away. We got down on Saturday, 1/24 and decided not to use a day of going to the parks until our last day, yesterday 1/31......to kind of wear out the kids so they'd sleep on the ride back. We all pretty much agreed that we wouldn't need to go back to the CBR again. Basically for the following reasons: (1) It was barely a step up from a Day's Inn or EconoLodge, in terms of the quality of the rooms. (2) The beds were way too small, as well as the bathroom which was ridiculously tiny. (3) The food court was a joke, as was the distance we had to walk from our rooms just to get to it. Normally we'll get a refillable mug from the resort we stay in, and this time we figured it just wasn't worth it. If we wanted a hot chocolate or something, it would have gotten cold by the time we were 3/4 from getting back to the room. (4) We don't care for the fact that the outside door to the room actually faces the outside. We feel more secure when you go into a building, down an inside hallway and then get to your room.

As far as the other parts of the trip are concerned, my wife and I are avid WDW-visitors and for the most part our other cohorts were first-timers. So we ended up doing a lot of "never done before" things on this trip. This includes the following:

* "The Magic of Disney Animation" - (This was an ok exhibit. We mainly went in because the 10 year old was all about getting autographs and photos with as many Disney characters as she could find. I think she ended up with about 43, and picked up a bunch in here.)

* "The Voyage of the Little Mermaid" - (Was my life changed by taking in this attraction? No. Was it enjoyable? Somewhat. Would I need to ever see it again? Not particularly.)

* "Festival of the Lion King" - (Same thoughts as on "Little Mermaid" above.)

* Coral Reef Restaurant - (Hands down, this was everyone's favorite restaurant during our entire stay. We ate there for lunch early in the week, and decided to cancel a character breakfast later in the week when it turned very cold and rainy, and made another lunch reservation here. I got the grilled chicken breast since I hate seafood and my wife is allergic to it. The food was fantastic and the view of the aquarium while we ate was terrific. There were even a few divers in the tank coming up and fooling around in there for the little kids.)

* Goofy's Barnstormer - (I was surprised at how slightly wild this was for a roller coaster aimed at small children. But I'd never ridden it before and I see no need to again.)

* Magic Carpets of Aladdin - (Ehhh. If you've done Dumbo, you've done this ride. No big whoop.)

* Living With the Land - (All this time I've always dismissed it as some boring gardening ride/show. It was actually very interesting. I'd do it again.....not as a "must see", but something I'd go on again.)

During this trip I'd also done some attractions that I hadn't been on in probably over 20 years, such as Small World, Jungle Cruise, Tea Cups, Tomorrowland Speedway. I don't quite despise them as I had before, but I wouldn't go on them unless I was with others who really wanted to. (But then we also didn't have time to ride some of my usual faves, like Haunted Mansion or Test Track, but oh well.)

The weather during this week was terrific.....up until late in the day on Thursday when the rain moved in, along with the cold. We'd been enjoying weather in the 75-80 range most of the week, with lots of sun, and then suddenly for Thursday and Friday (and Saturday morning) the temps only got from 50-60 and cold rainy drizzle.

The wait times for the rides were extremely manageable......except for Toy Story Mania. One morning we arrived at the park when it opened for the day and I got pushed along with the mob as the gate dropped and everyone went in, either to the ride directly or to the fastpasses. We managed to get 2 fastpasses and all enjoyed the ride greatly. I found that more than I was used to, the rides in the parks had longer POSTED wait times than the actual wait was itself.

And where did we eat this week? Besides the Coral Reef (twice), that is? We ate at 1900 Park Fare (dinner) where aside from the Strawberry Soup, it wasn't very good food. The same went for the Crystal Palace dinner buffet as well. 'Ohana was typically great (although we were a party of 4 rather than 6 because the 3 year old got sick). We also at at the Electric Umbrella, Pinocchio's Village Haus, Whispering Canyon Cafe, 50's Diner, Lotus Blossom Cafe, and they were all good. I just don't understand how they do things sometimes with the meal plan. In one place you could get ample refills even on shakes (Whispering Canyon) and in another (50's Diner) you couldn't. In some places they'd throw in a side salad, and in others someone in our party had to give up a desert in order to have a salad thrown in.

The 10 year old was particularly annoying when it came to rides she would adamantly refuse to go on (for no reason whatsoever), only to turn around later on and go back, try them, and absolutely love them (i.e. Space Mountain, and Big Thunder Mountain Railroad). She even said the TTA gave her the "creeps". She didn't thrown her biggest tantrum until she nearly got on RnRC......crying and carrying on even until well after they'd exited and we got off the ride. The 3 year old was more than willing to try rides the 10 year old wouldn't.....i.e. Splash Mountain. But he had his moments on other things, particularly in not being able to get his ride on TSM when the wait was 70 minutes or not getting a toy in a store we went into.

But all in all.......we had a very nice week with them all, particularly in watching them experience things for the first time that we've done countless times ourselves. That certainly was great fun. My wife and I are used to staying in places like the Poly, Wilderness Lodge, or the Boardwalk.....so the CBR was quite a step down from them. My next goal is to stay in a tower room at the Contemporary at least once. But in this economy and with things getting tighter and tighter.....I just don't know when that can happen.

Looking forward to my next trip, though....
 

Jerm

Well-Known Member
The only thing I can say about this trip report is "Besides THAT Mrs. Lincoln, how did you like the play?"
 

Lisa_C

New Member
Awe it's shame that the children children you went with behaved like, well, brats!

I've been without the children, then last Feb took my DD (then 3) and DS (then 11) and there wasn't nothing they wouldn't do! They've been bought up not to demand/ask for things and I never had the trouble you did and I feel for you. I saw plenty of spoilt kids that IMHO do not deserve to have a holiday in Disney!

Grandparents are coming with us next year (we did DLP for NYE and they loved it, and we're also there in August), so maybe if the kids start I can palm them off to them LOL!

I usually meet up with my Floridian friends and they comment on how well my children behave and it's sad when I see kids not appreciating a magical experience!

Having said that, I also loved going without the kids cos I could stay up way late!!!!!

Lisa.
 

DisneyJunkie

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Original Poster
Something else that never fails to amaze is how people can look at you and see you coming and then in the next breath just walk in front of you. This happened numerous times when I was pushing my wife around in her wheelchair. Not only that, but then there were times when people just don't pay attention and inconvenience the others behind them. For example.....in RnRc, I was by myself for a little while so I sent to the single riders line. Directly in front of me was this man and a little boy, obviously together, and then they get to the front only to be told they were in the wrong line (as if he couldn't have seen that already) and then made a stink "well we've already come this way....." until they put them through. Then, later when we took the children onto the Magic Carpets, (you know how they tell you to stand on a certain number, because that's the number of the particular carpet you'll be riding) this lady and a little girl go in and proceed to enter our carpet and when asked what number they were on, the woman just points over to any number which still wasn't the one she was in. That irritated me to no end, even though we were just the next ride anyway. If you can't speak English or follow simple directions, how good a time are you going to have in WDW anyway?
 

Lisa_C

New Member
Oh I know what you mean!! I also find that certain families that don't speak English tend to use their children to push in while lining up - I don't particularly want to sit on the person in front so leave a gap between myself and the next person. I then find that some small child has escaped in front of me, and 20 others come crashing in to "find their child" and I'm being trampled on! But when you poilitely ask them to return to their place they garble at you and the poor CM's are just as frustrated because these people insist they were there and just go to where they think is a space for the ride!!

The easiest way now is to use my children to block off the aisles so no one can push through! (and give the "glare")

And your experience with your wife is similar to one I've had. I found that in crowds people don't realise what you are pushing - then preceed to try and STEP OVER the wheelchair thinking there is a space in front of you and when you explain to them (well I shout now) they looked surprised an mumble something back and STILL try to get past. what is it with these people? They will get where they are going eventually!
 

kirksheppard

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Ummmm....

Maybe I'm missing something, but it sure does sound like you didn't enjoy much about this at all? Did you not really understand that the CBR is a moderate resort and what that means? Do you not expect children to act up? I don't really get why you're an "avid fan" based on what you've written here . . . ?
 

DisneyJunkie

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Original Poster
Maybe I'm missing something, but it sure does sound like you didn't enjoy much about this at all? Did you not really understand that the CBR is a moderate resort and what that means? Do you not expect children to act up? I don't really get why you're an "avid fan" based on what you've written here . . . ?

Actually, my problems with the trip were few and relatively minor in comparison to the whole week. I understand that a room is a room and we only really used it for sleeping, showering, and dressing......but I found that a "moderate" resort is quite a few pegs down on the list from "deluxe". Yes, I expect children to act up.....but I also expect appropriate discipline to be administered and it really wasn't. I guess you just didn't read enough to come away with your conclusion.
 

kirksheppard

Well-Known Member
Forgive me, but I guess I just found your tone to be so overwhelmingly negative and short on extolling the positives of your trip or why you are an avid fan. I also think you and I would have widely different views on the best of Disney . . . you had never done Lion King and didn't think it was that good? Wow. I guess it takes all kinds to make the world go round...
 

jeffk410

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excuse me

i want to die. Like you just said that you would not see festival of lion king again :brick::brick::brick:!!!! arg i really am slamming my head against the wall =P. lol just teasing you because that is a must-do for me and i think it is amazinggg!!!
Yeah but sorry bout the kids fits that kinda does stink, but just be positive your in the world i sometimes get sad going on this site because of all the negativity. Be happy to have the privledge to go =D!
 

DisneyJunkie

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Original Poster
Forgive me, but I guess I just found your tone to be so overwhelmingly negative and short on extolling the positives of your trip or why you are an avid fan. I also think you and I would have widely different views on the best of Disney . . . you had never done Lion King and didn't think it was that good? Wow. I guess it takes all kinds to make the world go round...

Interesting how some people will zero in on one or two negative things and then suddenly the entire thing becomes "overwhelmingly negative". I guess if you start off negative, you'll find all you want. All I was really negative about was some of the moments with the children and then the Caribbean Beach Resort itself.

To the contrary, I overall had a great time and, as usual, came home wanting to go right back again.....albeit with a few changes. There's just so much down there that no two people are going to have quite the same feelings about the place. For me, I go for two reasons (1) it's the only vacation place I know of where I can forget all my other problems until I leave to go home again, and (2) the rides. I'm just not a show person like others are. I feel like my time is being wasted unless I'm on a ride. Sitting in a seat (unless it's one of WDW's 3D shows) and watching some people perform is not my idea of utilizing my time in the best way (and I'm only referring to while being in WDW....not to watching TV or a movie, which I know is just that: sitting and watching people perform).

I did enjoy the numerous things I tried for the very first time.....even if I don't necessarily have to do them again. We had some great food, lots of fun, and great weather for the most part. I think I'll stick with the deluxe resorts, though.....hoping to get to stay in the Contemporary the next time around.
 

dixiegirl

Well-Known Member
Exactly why I never post a Trip report.....As excited I get about reading others.... I truly don't feel like getting nit picked !!!!
Everyone likes different things....Some people love driving themselves around disney while others prefer the buses....Others like to stay at All Stars Resort while other would never dream of it....Everyone has different tastes..Can't do much about that......

See, It's a small world after all!!!!!

Which by the way some people hate while others LOVVVE!!!
 

DisneyJunkie

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Original Poster
I will say, though....... that after this trip I can better appreciate the times when it's just my wife and myself in WDW. We can go to whatever parks we want, knowing exactly what we want to see and do for however long we choose, and aren't bound to other people's wants and schedules.
 

wdweric2.0

Member
My only problem is the point you made about children under...really 15?!? I think it is getting pretty bad when adults complain about small children being at WDW. If you don't have children than you don't have right to judge those who do. Until you've been in certain situations you should choose not to comment. And I agree, a lot of your posts have been pretty negative lately, complaining about children at CBR and bus noise, really like you didnt expect this at Disney World?
 

DisneyJunkie

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My only problem is the point you made about children under...really 15?!? I think it is getting pretty bad when adults complain about small children being at WDW. If you don't have children than you don't have right to judge those who do. Until you've been in certain situations you should choose not to comment. And I agree, a lot of your posts have been pretty negative lately, complaining about children at CBR and bus noise, really like you didnt expect this at Disney World?


Regardless of having children or not, I do have the right to judge those who do, especially those who do next to NOTHING to discipline them when they truly need it. And I'll reiterate that hardly any of my posts are negative, unless I'm specifically discussing points that I didn't care for.
 

TakeMeThere81

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I would also urge, please don't judge those with kids when you don't have any, you actually have no right to do that. Especially a single mother. Single mom of 3 kids is bound to have some challenges when she is doing it all by herself.
 

DisneyJunkie

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I would also urge, please don't judge those with kids when you don't have any, you actually have no right to do that. Especially a single mother. Single mom of 3 kids is bound to have some challenges when she is doing it all by herself.


Actually I do have every right to do that. When a mother stands there and offers back sarcastic quips the 3-year-old isn't likely to understand when he's screaming his head off "I hate you" and trying to injure the mother.......I'm going to judge the one refraining from properly disciplining their child.
 

MicheleK

Member
Actually I do have every right to do that. When a mother stands there and offers back sarcastic quips the 3-year-old isn't likely to understand when he's screaming his head off "I hate you" and trying to injure the mother.......I'm going to judge the one refraining from properly disciplining their child.

You're absolutly right. If you have to stand there and watch the lack of discipline that the parent isn't giving, you have every right to be upset. Kids just don't all of a sudden act that way, it builds to that by lack of discipline (IMHO). What would have made you feel better, maybe, is to have just walked away every time a situation occured. This way you and your wife wouldn't have had to watched/listened to an uncomfortable situation. Just my two cents. :wave:

And, yes, I do understand what it's like to have small kids and do it on your own. That's no excuse for letting your kids get away with bad behavior. The best thing a parent can do for her kids is teach them the proper way to act/behave/respect/... The list goes on and on and on... Parents who let their kids misbehave are just taking the easy (and wrong) way out.
 

smk

Well-Known Member
I will say, though....... that after this trip I can better appreciate the times when it's just my wife and myself in WDW. We can go to whatever parks we want, knowing exactly what we want to see and do for however long we choose, and aren't bound to other people's wants and schedules.
After taking many trips with others we (DH and myself) discovered the freedom a trip together can offer us. We have taken many people who have never been to WDW before and I had one (well, okay two) "musts". One was they needed to check in with us several times a day (our college aged kids who went with their respective boyfriends) and IF the newcomers hated their trip and hated the "world" they MUST NEVER SAY IT TO US. Worked out fine for us becasue no one ever said anything other than "thank you" to us about the trip. I still, to this day several years later, do no know if either of the guys liked WDW enough to go back on their own. I think they did, one is no longer in our lives, one still is.

We really do love to go with other seasoned WDW lovers or go by ourselves but never with people who we aren't sure of. It is hard enough in life to agree with family all the time let alone anyone else.
 

DisneyJunkie

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After taking many trips with others we (DH and myself) discovered the freedom a trip together can offer us. We have taken many people who have never been to WDW before and I had one (well, okay two) "musts". One was they needed to check in with us several times a day (our college aged kids who went with their respective boyfriends) and IF the newcomers hated their trip and hated the "world" they MUST NEVER SAY IT TO US. Worked out fine for us becasue no one ever said anything other than "thank you" to us about the trip. I still, to this day several years later, do no know if either of the guys liked WDW enough to go back on their own. I think they did, one is no longer in our lives, one still is.

We really do love to go with other seasoned WDW lovers or go by ourselves but never with people who we aren't sure of. It is hard enough in life to agree with family all the time let alone anyone else.

It was definitely an experience going with people who've never been, and some small children as well. But I think my wife and I will go either by ourselves the next time out, or with people who don't have small children. Sometimes you just want to go and do what YOU want to do without worrying about whether so-and-so can ride or if they'd be scared of it.
 

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