WEB SLINGERS: A Spider-Man Adventure to use Virtual Queue

Anjin

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waltography

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Ok so it IS possible.
Totally. If I had a park hopper on Saturday I could've probably gotten a BG for Rise after my BG 17 for Web Slingers. I think if you have a BG under 50ish for Web Slingers or under 70ish for Rise, you'll be able to get off the ride in time to try for a BG for the other attraction.
 

Curious Constance

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When it says estimated wait time 95 minutes, does that mean how long they think it’ll be till they call that boarding group, or the time you’ll wait once your group is called and you check in at the ride?
 

CM.X777

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Do people have an issue with this ride bc it's an updated version of mania? Or that it's in the same park? Would there be issues if this was in Dland instead?
Did/does people have issues with transformers and spiderman being the same ride but different parks in Orlando?

There really is this feeling of a band wagon effect. People just collectively crapping on WEB. With 95% of those people trashing the ride not having ridden on it.

I do think there are legit things to criticize about the ride, the fact that it's a series of U-turns, no motion base or extra movement of the ride vehicle to sell the extra movement you see in the media, lop-sided show scenes where only 1 side of vehicle will see them, being forced into a a small pre-existing show building (that was originally for a theater show), the lack of a Spider-Man AA somewhere in the ride, and it's overall seemingly small budget.

All that being said I'd still give it a 7-7.5/10, it is fun when your doing it, and it's way more replayable than Falcon from a gamer standpoint.
 

celluloid

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Do people have an issue with this ride bc it's an updated version of mania? Or that it's in the same park? Would there be issues if this was in Dland instead?
Did/does people have issues with transformers and spiderman being the same ride but different parks in Orlando?

I think people have an issue with the ride having bad fundamental design flaws while being the main attraction in a brand new land from the biggest theme park company, with their most famous superhero they have the rights to that has a budget that surpassed the budget for a ride that has that same character which was built 22 years ago and is regarded as the best theme park attraction by millions of people in the industry and general public alike. Not to mention at the home of their biggest competitor in themed entertainment.
The placement at the park or across the street when in Ca seems irrelevant. If they would have cloned the Iron Man experience from Hong Kong to DCA, it would have been the same issue of people knowing it is for the most part a lateral move from what is done with Star Tours.

People recognize sincerity, that has always been the issue with DCA's failures.
 

el_super

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Do people have an issue with this ride bc it's an updated version of mania? Or that it's in the same park? Would there be issues if this was in Dland instead?

You can go back and check the Marvel threads from the beginning and see that some here took issue with the ride before they even knew what it was. The cynicism is systemic at this point.

Most of the people who have actually been on it, have enjoyed it. Most of those giving bad reviews have no intention of ever riding it. If history is any indication here, they will continue to go on hating it until Disney announces a replacement, at which point it will immediately be elevated to classic status (see: a bugs land).
 

el_super

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I do think there are legit things to criticize about the ride, the fact that it's a series of U-turns, no motion base or extra movement of the ride vehicle to sell the extra movement you see in the media, lop-sided show scenes where only 1 side of vehicle will see them, being forced into a a small pre-existing show building (that was originally for a theater show), the lack of a Spider-Man AA somewhere in the ride, and it's overall seemingly small budget.

Yeah... All pretty valid criticisms. The real issue is a general dislike for these interactive rides though. We keep seeing the same arguments against them, that completely discount the importance of the interactivity/game elements. It's almost as if people are just reviewing based of YouTube videos and trying to compare it to a traditional dark ride. It's not really a fair comparison though, since you can't score points shooting at things on Pirates of the Caribbean... Yet.

Most of these complaints fall apart when you realize that they were the same complaints levied against Midway Mania all those years ago, but that ride is still just as popular as ever.
 

CaptinEO

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I think people have an issue with the ride having bad fundamental design flaws while being the main attraction in a brand new land from the biggest theme park company, with their most famous superhero they have the rights to that has a budget that surpassed the budget for a ride that has that same character which was built 22 years ago and is regarded as the best theme park attraction by millions of people in the industry and general public alike. Not to mention at the home of their biggest competitor in themed entertainment.
The placement at the park or across the street when in Ca seems irrelevant. If they would have cloned the Iron Man experience from Hong Kong to DCA, it would have been the same issue of people knowing it is for the most part a lateral move from what is done with Star Tours.

People recognize sincerity, that has always been the issue with DCA's failures.
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CaptinEO

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Yeah... All pretty valid criticisms. The real issue is a general dislike for these interactive rides though. We keep seeing the same arguments against them, that completely discount the importance of the interactivity/game elements. It's almost as if people are just reviewing based of YouTube videos and trying to compare it to a traditional dark ride. It's not really a fair comparison though, since you can't score points shooting at things on Pirates of the Caribbean... Yet.

Most of these complaints fall apart when you realize that they were the same complaints levied against Midway Mania all those years ago, but that ride is still just as popular as ever.
High score shooting games are not my definition of interactive. The resort now has 3 of them.

The land and ride are a massive disappointment. Look at Cars Land and Pandora to see how projects turn out when Disney actually cares.

To act like Marvel Land, which has been in the works since 2011 at WDI, is suitable output for Disney Imagineering and the franchise it represents, is crazy to me.
 
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el_super

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High score shooting games are not my definition of interactive. The resort now has 3 of them.

Yes, because they are immensely popular.


The land and ride are a massive disappointment. Look at Cars Land and Pandora to see how projects turn out when Disney actually cares.

What does that even mean? That every addition has to be a billion dollar super expansion to be worthy of existing? Clearly adding another Cars Land was not the goal of Avengers Campus and it would be silly to think it should have been.

To act like Marvel Land, which has been in the works since 2011 at WDI, is suitable output for Disney Imagineering and the franchise it represents, is crazy to me.

What seems crazy is the idea of rating something based on what it COULD be and not really on what is there. That just seems so backwards. Like giving Titanic a negative review because it wasn't five hours long and in 3-D.

You're just emphasizing quantity over quality at this point.
 

CaptinEO

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Yes, because they are immensely popular.




What does that even mean? That every addition has to be a billion dollar super expansion to be worthy of existing? Clearly adding another Cars Land was not the goal of Avengers Campus and it would be silly to think it should have been.



What seems crazy is the idea of rating something based on what it COULD be and not really on what is there. That just seems so backwards. Like giving Titanic a negative review because it wasn't five hours long and in 3-D.

You're just emphasizing quantity over quality at this point.
I'm glad you have incredibly low expectations for a Disney themepark land based on the Marvel Film Franchise. With your mindset no one can ever be let down.

And yes when you review something you should provide criticism to what it could have been, and what improvements could have been made. This is how it works for anything (food, entertainment, travel, etc).

To say its wrong of me to expect more than what Disney is currently offering is an invalid argument. I love themeparks and themed entertainment and have the right to be underwhelmed.

We know what WDI is capable of, and this fails to compare to their prior output.

Also Titanic is in 3D now.
 
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el_super

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I'm glad you have incredibly low expectations for a Disney themepark land based on the Marvel Film Franchise. With your mindset no one can ever be let down.

And yes when you review something you should provide criticism to what it could have been, and what improvements could have been made. This is how it works for anything (food, entertainment, travel, etc).

I'm glad that you have set the bar so high, you will never find any enjoyment in a theme park again.

To say its wrong of me to expect more than what Disney is currently offering is an invalid argument. I love themeparks and themed entertainment and have the right to be underwhelmed.

Sure you have a right to be underwhelmed, and you have a right to expect them to build billion dollar E-tickets every time they need to build something new. But that just means you will be disappointed most of the time, and that disappoint isn't going to reflect any actual criticism for Disney to respond to.

Which means, they will keep doing what they do, and you will keep being disappointed. But that's really something for you to figure out.

On the other hand, I'm glad that Disney took the effort to work in more Marvel properties into their parks. I'm glad they have decided to consolidate some of the other Marvel offerings in Hollywoodland into an area that is thematically appropriate for them. they also took a ride that I have almost no interest in visiting (its tough to be a bug) and turned it into something I would definitely want to ride again.

And even if you absolutely hate Spiderman and Marvel, you would at least see some value in regaining some capacity from a facility that was sitting mostly empty every day. It should make the lines shorter elsewhere for you.

Overall, I am still really happy that Disney continues to invest in their parks. In projects big and small.
 

Magenta Panther

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I'm glad that you have set the bar so high, you will never find any enjoyment in a theme park again.



Sure you have a right to be underwhelmed, and you have a right to expect them to build billion dollar E-tickets every time they need to build something new. But that just means you will be disappointed most of the time, and that disappoint isn't going to reflect any actual criticism for Disney to respond to.

Which means, they will keep doing what they do, and you will keep being disappointed. But that's really something for you to figure out.

On the other hand, I'm glad that Disney took the effort to work in more Marvel properties into their parks. I'm glad they have decided to consolidate some of the other Marvel offerings in Hollywoodland into an area that is thematically appropriate for them. they also took a ride that I have almost no interest in visiting (its tough to be a bug) and turned it into something I would definitely want to ride again.

And even if you absolutely hate Spiderman and Marvel, you would at least see some value in regaining some capacity from a facility that was sitting mostly empty every day. It should make the lines shorter elsewhere for you.

Overall, I am still really happy that Disney continues to invest in their parks. In projects big and small.

So as long as there's a presence of Spandex-man in some capacity in an otherwise unused building, that's just goldang good enough for you. Gotcha.
 

celluloid

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What seems crazy is the idea of rating something based on what it COULD be and not really on what is there. That just seems so backwards. Like giving Titanic a negative review because it wasn't five hours long and in 3-D.

You're just emphasizing quantity over quality at this point.

Ha. No, this is more like people know James Cameron for Terminator, Titanic, Aliens and Avatar...and then knowing he endorsed Terminator Genysis.

We know Disney is capable of much better quality than the product they put out. When they shove it down the throats for years that it is coming and this is the result, the critiques are valid all around and the industry knows that is a very classic DCA situation.
 

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