WDW literally falling apart

[eliza61nyc]

is remarking about disrepair "complaining" or "whining"? which s the other word people like to throw around.
I guess you are just supposed to be thrilled that they raised the prices again, but then don't fix problems when they happen?
I am not hysterical about it, Not whining or complaining...merely noticing... as we should all notice when the quality we are paying for, slips.

I think the issues is balance. One issue, IMO is the majority of folks here live in the past. They lovingly look back at some magical heyday of Disney world and nothing will ever compare. New rides are never good enough, resort upgrades are horrible, imagineers aren't as good etc etc.
And the site is getting the reputation of not having valuable information but just whining.
Lastly, it's funny how now any good piece of news will be flipped into a complaint. Lol look at the thread about less crowded parks. Something that one would think would be positive, oh no, not here.
What I don't get is why folks that have ZERO good to say about any place continue to go and continue to hang out at a supposed fansite?

I'm a huge wdw fan, love going and try to visit as much as my coins let me. If I get to the point where I start complaining about a light bulb being out in a sign.....time for me to rethink my choices.

 

[GhostHost1000]

I think the issues is balance. One issue is the majority of folks here live in the past. They lovingly look back at some magical heyday of Disney world and nothing will ever compare. New rides are never good enough, resort upgrades are horrible, imagineers aren't as good etc etc.
And the site is getting the reputation of not having valuable information but just whining.
Lastly, it's funny how now any good piece of news will be flipped into a complaint. Lol look at the thread about less crowded parks. Something that one would think would be positive, oh no, not here.

Less people in the parks are nice for people who still go, but it’s also a sign of something else and a question that needs to be addressed - why aren’t as many people going now?

Maybe some of those answers would indicate where changes should be made which is what people are chiming in about

Have you ever thought there’s more negativity now for a reason? We are here because we still enjoy Disney and want it it become better

 

[Splash4eva]

I read the art of complaining connects people and make some feel validated.

Dont always believe everything you read but i think for some that can be true

 

[Lilofan]

Dont always believe everything you read but i think for some that can be true

Heck some even made it their agenda in other professions and are making off like bandits in their bank account.

 

[Splash4eva]

Less people in the parks are nice for people who still go, but it’s also a sign of something else and a question that needs to be addressed - why aren’t as many people going now?

Maybe some of those answers would indicate where changes should be made which is what people are chiming in about

I was there last August into Labor Day for 10/11 days and parks were definitely slower than but also traditionally thats the way they use to be. It was my 1st trip back during that time of year in probably 15 years as we like to go during Thanksgiving now for Christmas.

 

[eliza61nyc]

Less people in the parks are nice for people who still go, but it’s also a sign of something else and a question that needs to be addressed - why aren’t as many people going now?

Maybe some of those answers would indicate where changes should be made which is what people are chiming in about

Have you ever thought there’s more negativity now for a reason? We are here because we still enjoy Disney and want it it become better

Except for that isn't what happens. It's basically turned into the usual Bob is evil, it's not worth the money and Disney is seeing its comeuppance
Rinse and repeat

 

[GhostHost1000]

Except for that isn't what happens. It's basically turned into the usual Bob is evil, it's not worth the money and Disney is seeing its comeuppance
Rinse and repeat

Ok but what isn’t true about that currently and shouldn’t be discussed?

Just because some of us don’t like the negative reality doesn’t mean we shouldn’t discuss it on a discussion board in my opinion. Along with the good.

 

[Santa Raccoon 77]

I think the issues is balance. One issue, IMO is the majority of folks here live in the past. They lovingly look back at some magical heyday of Disney world and nothing will ever compare. New rides are never good enough, resort upgrades are horrible, imagineers aren't as good etc etc.
And the site is getting the reputation of not having valuable information but just whining.
Lastly, it's funny how now any good piece of news will be flipped into a complaint. Lol look at the thread about less crowded parks. Something that one would think would be positive, oh no, not here.
What I don't get is why folks that have ZERO good to say about any place continue to go and continue to hang out at a supposed fansite?

I'm a huge wdw fan, love going and try to visit as much as my coins let me. If I get to the point where I start complaining about a light bulb being out in a sign.....time for me to rethink my choices.

Am sure that light bulb was out on my last trip. I wrote a strongly worded letter to the parks and resorts head at the time.





























Meg obviously did nothing

 

[John park hopper]

I don't know of anyone who would buy a new car with dents or mirrors missing or ripped seats and not expect defects to be repaired. Yet some on this forum think WDW guests should be oblivious to poor maintenance and repair simply because it's Disney. As for Bob being portrayed as evil one ---well Harry Truman had a sign on his presidential desk "the buck stops here" Bob the buck stops with you --get things fixed

 

[GhostHost1000]

I don't know of anyone who would buy a new car with dents or mirrors missing or ripped seats and not expect defects to be repaired. Yet some on this forum think WDW guests should be oblivious to poor maintenance and repair simply because it's Disney. As for Bob being portrayed as evil one ---well Harry Truman had a sign on his presidential desk "the buck stops here" Bob the buck stops with you --get things fixed

What’s even worse is most if not all the current issues basically occurred on his watch and he said he was coming back to fix it. Jokes on us unfortunately.

 

[eliza61nyc]

I don't know of anyone who would buy a new car with dents or mirrors missing or ripped seats and not expect defects to be repaired. Yet some on this forum think WDW guests should be oblivious to poor maintenance and repair simply because it's Disney. As for Bob being portrayed as evil one ---well Harry Truman had a sign on his presidential desk "the buck stops here" Bob the buck stops with you --get things fixed

Staying with the car anology. No it's more like you buy the dinged up car, whine about the dings and when something does get fixed you whine about that not being the way it was 20 years ago AND every conversation not even on that topic you (general use of you) morph into the familiar rant about the ding, the ceo of car company, how Henry Ford is turning over in his grave AND you continue to go to the same dealer and get condescending to people who have great experiences with the dinged up car . Lol for example the familiar inference that folks who stay on-site are obviously to uneducated to realize off site is better and that Disney is ripping them off.

 

[GhostHost1000]

Staying with the car anology. No it's more like you buy the dinged up car, whine about the dings and when something does get fixed you whine about that not being the way it was 20 years ago AND every conversation not even on that topic you (general use of you) morph into the familiar rant about the ding, the ceo of car company, how Henry Ford is turning over in his grave AND you continue to go to the same dealer and get condescending to people who have great experiences with the dinged up car .

So you acknowledge Disney World has become like a dinged up car?

Step 1 of the recovery is to admit it

 

[eliza61nyc]

So you acknowledge Disney World has become like a dinged up car?

Step 1 of the recovery is to admit it

I'm thinking of going into therapy.

52 days until my 10 day on site family vacation complete with dessert parties.

 

[GhostHost1000]

I'm thinking of going into therapy.

52 days until my 10 day on site family vacation complete with dessert parties.

Nice. Hope it goes well. Where you staying

I had to manage and plan for a family party of 10 recently on G+ and it wasn’t easy

 

[eliza61nyc]

Nice. Hope it goes well. Where you staying

We're staying at the old key west. Going to be interesting because it's a big group this time.
We are really "go with the flow" type of family so something not quite right doesn't send us into a meltdown.

Lol but I'm the gal that got stuck in the middle of a Hurricane in Jamaica on her honeymoon

 

[GhostHost1000]

We're staying at the old key west. Going to be interesting because it's a big group this time.
We are really "go with the flow" type of family so something not quite right doesn't send us into a meltdown.

Lol but I'm the gal that got stuck in the middle of a Hurricane in Jamaica on her honeymoon

Old Key is nice and relaxing... probably a good choice for a "go with the flow" group. Love the boat ride to Disney Springs from there.

Hopefully no hurricanes while you're there

 

[John park hopper]

Staying with the car anology. No it's more like you buy the dinged up car, whine about the dings and when something does get fixed you whine about that not being the way it was 20 years ago AND every conversation not even on that topic you (general use of you) morph into the familiar rant about the ding, the ceo of car company, how Henry Ford is turning over in his grave AND you continue to go to the same dealer and get condescending to people who have great experiences with the dinged up car . Lol for example the familiar inference that folks who stay on-site are obviously to uneducated to realize off site is better and that Disney is ripping them off.

elize where have you been lately, traveling the world? --nice to see you back

 

[donaldtoo]

I think the issues is balance. One issue, IMO is the majority of folks here live in the past. They lovingly look back at some magical heyday of Disney world and nothing will ever compare. New rides are never good enough, resort upgrades are horrible, imagineers aren't as good etc etc.
And the site is getting the reputation of not having valuable information but just whining.
Lastly, it's funny how now any good piece of news will be flipped into a complaint. Lol look at the thread about less crowded parks. Something that one would think would be positive, oh no, not here.
What I don't get is why folks that have ZERO good to say about any place continue to go and continue to hang out at a supposed fansite?

I'm a huge wdw fan, love going and try to visit as much as my coins let me. If I get to the point where I start complaining about a light bulb being out in a sign.....time for me to rethink my choices.

I was practically raised on Disney, and have great memories of its past, so I’ve been a Disney fan all my life (I’m 60). And, so have our 3 grown children and two young granddaughters. That’s, actually, the issue to me…Walt Disney set the bar very high decades ago, and he demanded that from everyone else in the company.
Why should we settle for less now…?!
Pretty sure (and I’ve read 7 Walt biographies) he wanted the bar set higher and higher, because he knew from experience that motivated people could do so. I know, Walt’s vision of the future was unrealistic, right…?! Why is exceeding excellence with more excellence unrealistic…?!?!?!
Sorry, but, it just blows my mind why people are making excuses for how, these days, not only has Disney not at least maintained the bar, but they haven’t even come close to “plussing” it, as Walt would say.
The guys who came directly after Walt (John Hench, Marty Sklar, etc.) did a lot a plussing. I get what you are saying, to a point. But, why should we settle for less for more now…?!

 

[donaldtoo]

We're staying at the old key west. Going to be interesting because it's a big group this time.
We are really "go with the flow" type of family so something not quite right doesn't send us into a meltdown.

Lol but I'm the gal that got stuck in the middle of a Hurricane in Jamaica on her honeymoon

Would love to be stuck in Jamaica…been there twice…!!!

 

[John park hopper]

I was practically raised on Disney, and have great memories of its past, so I’ve been a Disney fan all my life (I’m 60). And, so have our 3 grown children and two young granddaughters. That’s, actually, the issue to me…Walt Disney set the bar very high decades ago, and he demanded that from everyone else in the company.
Why should we settle for less now…?!
Pretty sure (and I’ve read 7 Walt biographies) he wanted the bar set higher and higher, because he knew from experience that motivated people could do so. I know, Walt’s vision of the future was unrealistic, right…?! Why is exceeding excellence with more excellence unrealistic…?!?!?!
Sorry, but, it just blows my mind why people are making excuses for how, these days, not only has Disney not at least maintained the bar, but they haven’t even come close to “plussing” it, as Walt would say.
The guys who came directly after Walt (John Hench, Marty Sklar, etc.) did a lot a plussing. I get what you are saying, to a point. But, why should we settle for less for more now…?!

I'm just like you raised on Disney won't say how much past 60 I'am