WDW literally falling apart

Castle Cake Apologist

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Yeah, no. And that’s not even a good try.

My initial post did not directly respond to any particular post, including one about a damaged clothiers or whatever.

It was a general comment about yet another negative thread full of “experts” and their pointless exercise of endless whining and opining. No balance, no fairness, just nitpick, nitpick, nitpick and armchair QB via the rearview. Are you all just really bored?

Disney doesn’t ruin my good time. The 100% negative wallowers on this site do, though.

Maybe find what you do like and have more positive discussions on their fan sites instead of dragging down those of us who just take things in stride.

Nothing is ever going to be 100% perfect. You will always be able to find something wrong. Why look for it and emphasize it? No one here is an aggrieved party. No one here is going to teach Disney anything. The parks are in obvious transition in more ways than one. Go with the flow or just go. You have no power to change anything.

I hope someday Steve gives us an eye roll reaction.

This entire thread is a discussion about a chunk of the facade of Keystone Clothiers falling off. Hence the name, because part of a building at WDW quite literally fell apart. The thread was revived 9 months later (now) when somebody posted pictures of the facade still damaged and poorly hidden by rolling planters. I'd invite you to maybe read even the first post in a thread before barreling in to tell everybody how awful they are.

Also, nobody is forcing you to post here, or even read other people's posts. 🤷
 
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Lilofan

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Ahh ok, you know...so what are the legitimate reasons it is taking more then 9 months to repair a door surround? My counter top guy could cut one out of marble in a couple weeks...lol but I imagine it isn't marble or stone either but another mystery material that is extremely difficult to work with and requires specialty engineering to install?
How many to do be involved with the job? 100. 1 to do the job and 99 to talk about why they were not chosen to do the job.
 

GhostHost1000

Premium Member
Yeah, no. And that’s not even a good try.

My initial post did not directly respond to any particular post, including one about a damaged clothiers or whatever.

It was a general comment about yet another negative thread full of “experts” and their pointless exercise of endless whining and opining. No balance, no fairness, just nitpick, nitpick, nitpick and armchair QB via the rearview. Are you all just really bored?

Disney doesn’t ruin my good time. The 100% negative wallowers on this site do, though.

Maybe find what you do like and have more positive discussions on their fan sites instead of dragging down those of us who just take things in stride.

Nothing is ever going to be 100% perfect. You will always be able to find something wrong. Why look for it and emphasize it? No one here is an aggrieved party. No one here is going to teach Disney anything. The parks are in obvious transition in more ways than one. Go with the flow or just go. You have no power to change anything.
One day we all realize Disney World isn’t all magical rainbows and unicorns covered in pixie dust. Even us “negative wallowers” have been there at one time or another. It’s those of us who have been there so much over the last 20+ years that voice our opinions based on what we have seen and what we see trending today. Many of us are AP holders and DVC members as well.

Sure change is going to happen and you can’t please everyone, but there have been so many poor decisions made over the last several years or more that just have some of us questioning if they even know what they are doing anymore. Sadly.

If we weren’t fans we wouldn’t be here. If we didn’t love the parks we wouldn’t be voicing our concerns and opinions.

If you need an all happy Disney space, there are many fb groups and sites online that worship the mouse and everything Bob and co. does
 
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SamusAranX

Well-Known Member
Yeah, no. And that’s not even a good try.

My initial post did not directly respond to any particular post, including one about a damaged clothiers or whatever.

It was a general comment about yet another negative thread full of “experts” and their pointless exercise of endless whining and opining. No balance, no fairness, just nitpick, nitpick, nitpick and armchair QB via the rearview. Are you all just really bored?

Disney doesn’t ruin my good time. The 100% negative wallowers on this site do, though.

Maybe find what you do like and have more positive discussions on their fan sites instead of dragging down those of us who just take things in stride.

Nothing is ever going to be 100% perfect. You will always be able to find something wrong. Why look for it and emphasize it? No one here is an aggrieved party. No one here is going to teach Disney anything. The parks are in obvious transition in more ways than one. Go with the flow or just go. You have no power to change anything.
Oh *checks notes*

The person who chooses to visit this forum and read / interact with these posts is complaining about said posts.

You don’t have to visit here. In fact, the internet has other websites.

Choosing to come here, then complain about others expressing their opinions, is again a choice.

And letting it ruin your experience at Disney is a sign of immaturity on your part. I enjoy plenty of things, movies, places etc that’s other dislike or actively rail against and it doesn’t “force” me to suffer
 

solidyne

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Oh *checks notes*

The person who chooses to visit this forum and read / interact with these posts is complaining about said posts.

You don’t have to visit here. In fact, the internet has other websites.

Choosing to come here, then complain about others expressing their opinions, is again a choice.

And letting it ruin your experience at Disney is a sign of immaturity on your part. I enjoy plenty of things, movies, places etc that’s other dislike or actively rail against and it doesn’t “force” me to suffer
You're right. In fact, before my trips I pre-overdose on some of the negativity here (including my own), and then I go to to the parks and they don't seem so bad!!

Not joking!
 

KCheatle

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You're right. In fact, before my trips I pre-overdose on some of the negativity here (including my own), and then I go to to the parks and they don't seem so bad!!

Not joking!
I feel the same. I like this blog because of all of the reliable information about the future of the parks, but it can definitely give you a pretty dark perspective if you spend too much time on it. I only go to WDW or DL every 12-18 months, so I don't see all of the little details that people complain about on here when I'm there. And, I frequently find myself getting to the parks and thinking there are some pretty nit-picky people on here who I feel are searching for the problems they report on. As the saying goes, "If you look for problems, you will find problems."

Also, on this blog, people are simultaneously commenting about multiple parks all the time so you read about all of these things happening. But, when you're there, you're in one or maybe 2 parks, and so you don't know that rides in another park are down. You just focus on what's in front of you. And, even when the ride is down in front of you, there are several other things to do right around it, so you just move on. It's just a different perspective when you're there versus when you're reading about it from your office over your lunch break.
 

Tony the Tigger

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The official Disney Blog is full of sunshine and rainbows and cheerleading...if that is what you are primarily looking for. :)
Those who know me know I tell it like it is - good or bad. (There are TR’s to prove it.) So no, “cheerleading” is not my speed. I just don’t dwell on the bad and get all hysterical about it. I don’t have a sense of entitlement about it.
You don’t have to visit here. In fact, the internet has other websites
I literally asked for other site suggestions that aren’t all bitter complainers.
And letting it ruin your experience at Disney
I said the exact opposite of that. I guess you didn’t check your notes very carefully.

This site has gotten out of balance. And no, I don’t think it’s because WDW has taken some kind of nosedive. I think the groupthink in this little clique has people buying into an exaggerated image of constantly overflowing trash cans everywhere and bad, bad, bad with no end in sight. If I were Steve, I would find it disheartening. I don’t think folks usually start a site like this expecting it to become a “Whine Festival.”

I go to WDW and just have a great time.

I acknowledge this particular thread was about one specific valid issue (but still overblown IMO.) I was responding to this and all the other threads of nothing but negativity I had seen in the same sitting, and it happened to come out here. Probably would have made more sense in one of the other ones.
 

Bocabear

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Those who know me know I tell it like it is - good or bad. (There are TR’s to prove it.) So no, “cheerleading” is not my speed. I just don’t dwell on the bad and get all hysterical about it. I don’t have a sense of entitlement about it.
I am not sure how discussing an un-repaired building on the main entry street of a major theme park has anything to do with being entitled... I guess I am entitled to my opinion, as you are to yours... No one is hysterical about it... Just wondering why it has not been resolved in the amount of time it would take to build an entire new building... Doesn't make me hysterical... or entitled...
I grew up in Florida going to WDW many many times a year... It is a place I am connected with, so, like anything you care about, I hate to see things slipping... but I am not hysterical about it...
 

DisneyHead123

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Trying to see both sides on the "to complain or not to complain" topic... I think it depends on whether you take a macro or a micro view. At a macro, zoomed out level, Disney World and so much about the modern world should be a source of awe to everyone, I think. The sheer scale of human collaboration and cooperation from a dizzying array of fields, the progress in science / technology / architecture / etc., the things that humans have been able to build in a relatively short amount of time. The hedonic treadmill blinds us to the amount of progress that humanity has made. If you went back 400 years and tried to explain the concept of a cruise ship, or a roller coaster, or a MagicBand, or modern day food distribution that allows for food festivals, they'd think you were insane or witch. I recall listening to a talk on interdependence where the speaker said to do an exercise wherein you look at one item in a room and think about how much had to happen for that one item to be there. The people who had to find the raw materials, the technology and inventory tracking systems to transport the raw materials, the factories to transform the raw materials, the work that went into building those factories, the scientists who had to figure out how to make said material in the first place, the inventory tracking and logistics of getting it to a store, the drivers to drive it there, etc. Then compound that by every item in the room - what seems mundane is really a sort of miracle of human progress and collaboration. The amount that Disney has spent and continues to spend to sustain operations, and the volume of work that goes into making it happen is staggering - again, in a big picture sense.

That said, a detail oriented "zoomed in" perspective is important too. If my supervisor says that I'm late turning in a report, I can't scoff and say "What?! That is such a first world problem. Do you realize that people are starving to death in the world? And you're talking to me about red tape paperwork? Have some perspective!" We make progress at large scales because we nag and criticize and micromanage each other a bit so that systems keep functioning the way they should, and are able to grow and progress over time. We don't let our houses get (too) filthy or in a state of disrepair, or only pay most but not all of our bills, or skip just a few of the deadlines that we don't like. In real life, details matter a lot. I think it's a matter of finding balance in not dismissing day-to-day issues, and also taking the time to step back and appreciate things at a larger scale sometimes.
 
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Bocabear

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is remarking about disrepair "complaining" or "whining"? which s the other word people like to throw around.
I guess you are just supposed to be thrilled that they raised the prices again, but then don't fix problems when they happen?
I am not hysterical about it, Not whining or complaining...merely noticing... as we should all notice when the quality we are paying for, slips.
 

cranbiz

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It was at DHS by Lights Motor stunt show then moved to near the sewage plant for storage. Now you may have passed it at 50K feet
Stored at the treatment plant, which I think would have been a fine executive swimming pool. Which I believe way the joke that was attempted. I got it. It appeared that you didn't.

I know where it was stored, I know what's on Bear Island Rd. I have been to VM South many times.
 

Lilofan

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is remarking about disrepair "complaining" or "whining"? which s the other word people like to throw around.
I guess you are just supposed to be thrilled that they raised the prices again, but then don't fix problems when they happen?
I am not hysterical about it, Not whining or complaining...merely noticing... as we should all notice when the quality we are paying for, slips.
Sad that many notice more bad than good in this world.
 

Splash4eva

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Sad that many notice more bad than good in this world.
Sadly yes people like to complain more than they will praise but i dont think people feel Disney is 100% bad and would agree there is still some happy times there as I know i still “enjoy” it or i wouldnt go but they are getting less time/money from me and lets be realistic now. We cant ignore what the Florida parks have become.
 

Lilofan

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Sadly yes people like to complain more than they will praise but i dont think people feel Disney is 100% bad and would agree there is still some happy times there as I know i still “enjoy” it or i wouldnt go but they are getting less time/money from me and lets be realistic now. We cant ignore what the Florida parks have become.
I read the art of complaining connects people and make some feel validated.
 

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