WDW literally falling apart

Sirwalterraleigh

Sirwalterraleigh

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GhostHost1000 said:
Oh but we were told this would be an “attraction”. Ya know, probably about as exciting as jumping fountains by imagination but with an IP attached to it to make it appear bigger

I wonder how much they wasted spent on this?
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It looks kinda tiny over the construction walls…was that what they were going for by putting it in the wrong park as an impediment to get to the next festival booth?
 
MagicRat

MagicRat

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The planters in front of the wall is a bad look for how long it has gone on but this is an industry problem. Much like the signage complaints on the monorail.

Speculation but they are trying to figure out what they want to do with it, just fix it or do something else with the space. They don’t want to do it twice so they sit with planters.

I am not saying that’s the right thing but it’s happening everywhere in construction. Sorry for being the stay off my lawn guy as I am in my low 40’s but construction and most industries lost too many people who knew what they were doing. I work as a general contractor in the government sector and from municipalities to schools to military bases, the old guys left and the new ones just put their head down hoping it works out. Lack of training and poor bosses. Unfortunately the bosses are too new and weren’t trained either.

This is not an excuse for Disney just what’s going on. A local community college where I am at has roughly $250 million a year for improvements, not Disney money but a lot for a local junior college. Someone decided they would try general contracting to cut out supervision and O&P, the school project managers are running the work as the GC and now they are calling for help because they are out of sequence. No money saved now because off added work to make corrections but they can’t just put planters in front of it as school is starting in 6 weeks.

I know we want to blame Disney because it’s expensive but it is a societal problem.
 
lazyboy97o

lazyboy97o

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MagicRat said:
The planters in front of the wall is a bad look for how long it has gone on but this is an industry problem. Much like the signage complaints on the monorail.

Speculation but they are trying to figure out what they want to do with it, just fix it or do something else with the space. They don’t want to do it twice so they sit with planters.

I am not saying that’s the right thing but it’s happening everywhere in construction. Sorry for being the stay off my lawn guy as I am in my low 40’s but construction and most industries lost too many people who knew what they were doing. I work as a general contractor in the government sector and from municipalities to schools to military bases, the old guys left and the new ones just put their head down hoping it works out. Lack of training and poor bosses. Unfortunately the bosses are too new and weren’t trained either.

This is not an excuse for Disney just what’s going on. A local community college where I am at has roughly $250 million a year for improvements, not Disney money but a lot for a local junior college. Someone decided they would try general contracting to cut out supervision and O&P, the school project managers are running the work as the GC and now they are calling for help because they are out of sequence. No money saved now because off added work to make corrections but they can’t just put planters in front of it as school is starting in 6 weeks.

I know we want to blame Disney because it’s expensive but it is a societal problem.
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The decision of how to handle this isn’t up to the contractors. They had people out there doing work almost immediately. Given the nature of the failure, doing a more comprehensive project to address the entire facade may be a more appropriate solution, something that would take time to plan. Sourcing issues regarding the panels would also be likely without it being some sort of “societal problem”.
 
MagicRat

MagicRat

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lazyboy97o said:
The decision of how to handle this isn’t up to the contractors. They had people out there doing work almost immediately. Given the nature of the failure, doing a more comprehensive project to address the entire facade may be a more appropriate solution, something that would take time to plan. Sourcing issues regarding the panels would also be likely without it being some sort of “societal problem”.
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You must be in a management position at one of these places, you didn’t read what I stated. I am a contractor for places like this and it because of people being in management that shouldn’t be, they simply do not know what to do. The ones who ran these places with intelligence and experience have retired or moved on either from frustration or being of retirement age. The “new guard” does not know what to do and either does nothing in confusion trying to “figure it out” or spends money inefficiently. You really can’t blame them because they don’t belong in the position. The problem is most of their bosses do not either,
 
MagicRat

MagicRat

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Mr Ferret 88 said:
Magic Kingdom was built in an era of different building codes and safety practices.
- just an observation.
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Yeah and the people of that era were also capable of getting a spacecraft back to earth from the moon on the amount of power to use Mr Coffee. People actually thought back then now we complain about everything do nothing and read twitter. That’s why reading comprehension fails after so many characters.

Again I am under 45.
 
lazyboy97o

lazyboy97o

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MagicRat said:
You must be in a management position at one of these places, you didn’t read what I stated. I am a contractor for places like this and it because of people being in management that shouldn’t be, they simply do not know what to do. The ones who ran these places with intelligence and experience have retired or moved on either from frustration or being of retirement age. The “new guard” does not know what to do and either does nothing in confusion trying to “figure it out” or spends money inefficiently. You really can’t blame them because they don’t belong in the position. The problem is most of their bosses do not either,
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I read what you said. They can’t just send a contractor, no matter how old school or good, to just fix it.
 
Mr Ferret 75

Mr Ferret 75

Thank you sir. You were an inspiration.
MagicRat said:
Yeah and the people of that era were also capable of getting a spacecraft back to earth from the moon on the amount of power to use Mr Coffee. People actually thought back then now we complain about everything do nothing and read twitter. That’s why reading comprehension fails after so many characters.

Again I am under 45.
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What's wrong with being over 45 ?
 

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