WDW is canceling Jan. 31st reservations at CRT to hold event for more $

[Bandini]

You're right -- it's not fair to the other parks. They can't afford to treat their customers like Disney treats theirs.

BAM!

 

[Delgado]

Hold on, you're really comparing Fastpasses to gift cards? Fastpasses cost nothing and you can get those on your own. Gift cards have monetary value.

And what's this fixation about "only one person coming forward"? There's 7.5 BILLION people on this planet. It's against pretty good odds that even one of those who were affected ended up with their story on the boards. Plus, you're assuming that all of those who were displaced have access to the Internet or even have any idea what fan forums are.

You clearly don't know what fastpasses I am talking about and that was in conjunction with a gift card. And you can think fastpasses don't hold value but id rather get the fastpasses I'm referring to that can be used on anything with no planning ahead than a gift card, giving me three more means that is six lines I don't have to stand in that day. That time is worth more than money to me.

 

[larryz]

Previous posts aroused my natural curiosity, so I googled for any mentions of WDW cancelling reservations at CRT on 31 Jan. I found only the reference on that other board and no others (not even this discussion).

This result leads me to believe that despite how I (and many others here) would have felt should it have happened to me (us), there's not exactly a huge hue and cry about it.

If I were a typical Florida personal-injury tort lawyer, however, I think I'd be scouring the internet looking for some class-action clients...

 

[draybook]

You clearly don't know what fastpasses I am talking about and that was in conjunction with a gift card. And you can think fastpasses don't hold value but id rather get the fastpasses I'm referring to that can be used on anything with no planning ahead than a gift card, giving me three more means that is six lines I don't have to stand in that day. That time is worth more than money to me.

I clearly DO know which FPs you're talking about. I've had them given to me for two days worth of waiting for them to fix our resort room door. Big fricking whoop. A few minutes less spent in lines. I'll take that cash any day of the week and twice on Sunday.

 

[Delgado]

I clearly DO know which FPs you're talking about. I've had them given to me for two days worth of waiting for them to fix our resort room door. Big fricking whoop. A few minutes less spent in lines. I'll take that cash any day of the week and twice on Sunday.

Different strokes for different folks

 

[draybook]

Different strokes for different folks

That's true, but they are still not one and the same. One is actually a measure of value or worth and the other is a made up time frame.

 

[SorcererMC]

The real slippery slope of this is not future ADR cancellations. It's that Disney will learn they can book CRT for $499pp at ~30 days out, and because they have publicized it (creating future demand)... I would expect them to create an upcharge dining experience at CRT on a more regular basis for something like $200+ per person, blocking out times from it's normal evening operating hours.

 

[21stamps]

That's true, but they are still not one and the same. One is actually a measure of value or worth and the other is a made up time frame.

It's essentially a freed up afternoon or evening where you can ride what you want, when you want. No schedule.
The other is a meal or a souvenir.
I'd choose the time saver, and the freedom.
I don't care what it "costs disney" all I care is what it will do for my family, for us anytime FPs would be far more valuable.

 

[draybook]

It's essentially a freed up afternoon or evening where you can ride what you want, when you want. No schedule.
The other is a meal or a souvenir.
I'd choose the time saver, and the freedom.
I don't care what it "costs disney" all I care is what it will do for my family, for us anytime FPs would be far more valuable.

No, the gift card is ACTUALLY A MEASURE OF CURRENCY. The other is time saved at a place where you are going to be anyways. Depending on the time of year you go, those Fastpasses may save you 20 minutes or they might save you 3 hours. That $100 gift card or whatever value it is will remain constant.

Look, I get it. You're one of the most die hard dusters this site has ever seen. If Disney started offering hard-ticket scat events, you'd find a way to normalize it. But seriously, give it a rest already. They up in this scenario and that's all there is to it.

 

[21stamps]

No, the gift card is ACTUALLY A MEASURE OF CURRENCY. The other is time saved at a place where you are going to be anyways. Depending on the time of year you go, those Fastpasses may save you 20 minutes or they might save you 3 hours. That $100 gift card or whatever value it is will remain constant.

Look, I get it. You're one of the most die hard dusters this site has ever seen. If Disney started offering hard-ticket scat events, you'd find a way to normalize it. But seriously, give it a rest already. They f'd up in this scenario and that's all there is to it.

I was just talking FP vs Gift Card. For some, time is important.
Less time waiting in line means more time to experience more of the park= more value for my day. A $100 gift card can't make memories. Riding more attractions, seeing a show, one that maybe we wouldn't have had time for otherwise, or meeting a character, does.

I'm sorry that you think someone must be high on Pixie Dust to think that way. Value is subjective.

 

[Delgado]

That's true, but they are still not one and the same. One is actually a measure of value or worth and the other is a made up time frame.

Again I never claimed they were the same.
The only thing that matters is which one a person would value more when trying to reconcile a situation. There's no right or wrong.

 

[Delgado]

No, the gift card is ACTUALLY A MEASURE OF CURRENCY. The other is time saved at a place where you are going to be anyways. Depending on the time of year you go, those Fastpasses may save you 20 minutes or they might save you 3 hours. That $100 gift card or whatever value it is will remain constant.

Look, I get it. You're one of the most die hard dusters this site has ever seen. If Disney started offering hard-ticket scat events, you'd find a way to normalize it. But seriously, give it a rest already. up in this scenario and that's all there is to it.

They did. No one said gift cards weren't a measure of currency. They are. I was in Disney during New Years and the extra fastpasses were amazing. Major time saver and no I wouldn't have ridden two of those rides without the extra fastpasses. They were more valuable to me at that time. That is my opinion. If you would rather have a meal or a souvenir more power to you. No one is telling you that's wrong.

 

[Bandini]

No, the gift card is ACTUALLY A MEASURE OF CURRENCY. The other is time saved at a place where you are going to be anyways. Depending on the time of year you go, those Fastpasses may save you 20 minutes or they might save you 3 hours. That $100 gift card or whatever value it is will remain constant.

Look, I get it. You're one of the most die hard dusters this site has ever seen. If Disney started offering hard-ticket scat events, you'd find a way to normalize it. But seriously, give it a rest already. They f'd up in this scenario and that's all there is to it.

Giving away anytime FP+'s is Disney's new band-aid for anything that happens. The problem is, their value drops if all FP+'s for a ride have been used up. It's not like 7DMT will become a walk-on, and almost everyone will be using them for the most popular rides. So the anytime FP's value diminishes.

Disney reneged on their agreement and broke trust for more money. Regardless of how these guests were compensated, I think the reason for their reservations being canceled will not be forgotten or forgiven.

 

[GhostHost1000]

The real slippery slope of this is not future ADR cancellations. It's that Disney will learn they can book CRT for $499pp at ~30 days out, and because they have publicized it (creating future demand)... I would expect them to create an upcharge dining experience at CRT on a more regular basis for something like $200+ per person, blocking out times from it's normal evening operating hours.

They have every right to do that if they wish but they need to plan it more than 190 days in advance so they don't have to cancel other family reservations at the last minute

 

[King Panda 77]

Giving away anytime FP+'s is Disney's new band-aid for anything that happens. The problem is, their value drops if all FP+'s for a ride have been used up. It's not like 7DMT will become a walk-on, and almost everyone will be using them for the most popular rides. So the anytime FP's value diminishes.

Disney reneged on their agreement and broke trust for more money. Regardless of how these guests were compensated, I think the reason for their reservations being canceled will not be forgotten or forgiven.

By who ?
A handfull of families ?
A small group of people who inhabit boards like this ?

The majority of customers won't even be aware of this and never will be, so i don't see Disney worrying in the slightest.

For the record i think it was very badly managed and handled.

 

[Bandini]

By who ?
A handfull of families ?
A small group of people who inhabit boards like this ?

The majority of customers won't even be aware of this and never will be, so i don't see Disney worrying in the slightest.

For the record i think it was very badly managed and handled.

I'm sorry, I thought my statement was pretty clear, but I guess not. By the people who had their reservations canceled. That may seem inconsequential to you or to Disney management, but IMO it's not.

 

[SorcererMC]

They have every right to do that if they wish but they need to plan it more than 190 days in advance so they don't have to cancel other family reservations at the last minute

Yes, of course. The consensus here is that Disney did this on purpose - so what's the end game? There is now a great way for them to capitalize on this 'failure' - shifting CRT to more of a luxury fine dining experience at a higher price point/ increasing margins. Make it 'adults only' and offer it on a semi-regular/ weekly basis, evenings only.

 

[DisneyDebRob]

Giving away anytime FP+'s is Disney's new band-aid for anything that happens. The problem is, their value drops if all FP+'s for a ride have been used up. It's not like 7DMT will become a walk-on, and almost everyone will be using them for the most popular rides. So the anytime FP's value diminishes.

Disney reneged on their agreement and broke trust for more money. Regardless of how these guests were compensated, I think the reason for their reservations being canceled will not be forgotten or forgiven.

When I was down there in December, we were given 3 anytime FP's for a problem I won't get into here. Anyway we were going to Epcot and we're told they were good for any ride BUT Frozen. So you may not even be able to use them for the most popular rides which even diminishes them even more.

 

[King Panda 77]

I'm sorry, I thought my statement was pretty clear, but I guess not. By the people who had their reservations canceled. That may seem inconsequential to you or to Disney management, but IMO it's not.

 

[Rebel_]

Giving away anytime FP+'s is Disney's new band-aid for anything that happens. The problem is, their value drops if all FP+'s for a ride have been used up. It's not like 7DMT will become a walk-on, and almost everyone will be using them for the most popular rides. So the anytime FP's value diminishes.

Disney reneged on their agreement and broke trust for more money. Regardless of how these guests were compensated, I think the reason for their reservations being canceled will not be forgotten or forgiven.

We planned our CRT dinner for the last thing we did in MK on our last day of vacation. If they had moved our date and time no amount any time fast passes would have comforted me. Game changers are a death-kiss to a commando planner like myself.

These boards are full of threads by people whom Disney has let down. I can't even get excited about a future trip any longer.