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[Disneyhead'71]

I love threads like these. Every post dripping with more acerbic jealousy than the last.

Oh yeah, incredibly jealous I didn't get to attend a press event today.

Oh wait, all in all, I think I'd rather be on the pier at Cocoa.

 

[DisneyDrum]

I am reasonably sure Disney can do the new SW show (has it started for real yet? I have had to take leave of the fan community goings on of late and may have missed its debut.)

In case you missed it - it has: http://forums.wdwmagic.com/threads/...-disneys-hollywood-studios-this-spring.909933

It's embarrassingly boring- like Stich's Supersonic Celebration bad. I guess the good thing is that it actually opened on time? (despite first day technical issues).

 

[Mike S]

In case you missed it - it has: http://forums.wdwmagic.com/threads/...-disneys-hollywood-studios-this-spring.909933

It's embarrassingly boring- like Stich's Supersonic Celebration bad. I guess the good thing is that it actually opened on time? (despite first day technical issues).

Gotta love that LucasFilm seal of approval. No more SWW, but this is fine

 

[Brian Swan]

How much does RoL cost to operate per show relative to Fantasmic?

Seeing as they haven't managed to run a full RoL show yet, I don't think this data is available But I'm guessing with the number of CMs needed, and the pyro, F! will probably cost more per show to actually run.

 

[GoofGoof]

Not odd at all, really. Online and in-parks, the non-critical segment of Disney lifestyle consumers contributes to the decline in quality of Disney's domestic parks in several ways. Their fawning acceptance of Disney's decreasing quality and service, and increasing prices, tells management exactly what they want to hear. Their public praise of an ever-diminishing status quo is an enabling tool for those in Disney management who believe there's no line too low that Disney customers won't cross. As collective fandom, they're fodder for manipulation by management (I'm looking at you, D23). Online, their sheer numbers spin the narrative of what Corporate Disney really is, turning it into a Wall Street wet dream of cult-consumerism. Knowingly or not, they're shills for the sharp-pencil brigade that dominates Disney's domestic parks -- sycophants for the only corporation on the planet that gets love when it stamps "sucker" on the foreheads of its customers and then upcharges them for the ink.

I think you give these lifestylers a little too much credit. I don't think they factor into the actual decision making process much at all. They are nothing more than free advertising (or cheap if you count the freebies). The numbers ultimately talk. If attendance has really fallen off and the hotel occupancy is really down there will be action taken but that has nothing to do with lifestylers.

 

[wdwgreek]

I think you give these lifestylers a little too much credit. I don't think they factor into the actual decision making process much at all. They are nothing more than free advertising (or cheap if you count the freebies). The numbers ultimately talk. If attendance has really fallen off and the hotel occupancy is really down there will be action taken but that has nothing to do with lifestylers.

Threads like these always amuse me. in a way we are all contributing the life style mentality. We populate their webpages with hits to read their posts and see their pictures and then we come to a forum to pick apart, debate, and discuss everything they post and or all the rumours under the sea and above the horizon. While we don't get free stuff I agree i think the animosity they get is disproportional, and i agree with the sentiment that they are merely a means to the end of free advertising for state side disney parks.

 

[DarthMileZ]

i love the band wagoners that say Star Wars VII is a carbon copy of New Hope.

when all of the echoes of that movie (which is all they are, unless you were watching a different film)

JJ even said, it was delibrate.

do people really think they were gonna see a star wars film with no link to its former trilogy. thats silly.

i cant wait for people to be silenced with episode 8.

 

[TalkingHead]

i love the band wagoners that say Star Wars VII is a carbon copy of New Hope.

Not really a "bandwagon" thing. People were already commenting on this opening weekend.

when all of the echoes of that movie (which is all they are, unless you were watching a different film)

JJ even said, it was delibrate.

Oh, so it was intentionally unoriginal? Isn't that like Pee Wee Herman tripping over his feet and smirking, "I meant to do that."

 

[Disneyhead'71]

Not just that.

If Disney handled social media in a genuine and professional manner, then most of these losers would have to either get jobs or lives or both ... and these people are largely social misfits who only have any self-esteem at all because they enable each other.
No, you wanting a photo with a foamhead as something you must have isn't normal or healthy if you are 33. ... Not unless you are very special needs.

The whole M&G as an attraction thing is something I will never "get". I know full grown adults who have a list of "hard to get" characters they are dead set on getting a photo with.

SMH

 

[DarthMileZ]

Not really a "bandwagon" thing. People were already commenting on this opening weekend.



Oh, so it was intentionally unoriginal? Isn't that like Pee Wee Herman tripping over his feet and smirking, "I meant to do that."

1) it was reported by one or two sites, and then it spread like wildfire because of bandwagon

2) george lucas "its like poetry, it rhymes" if you have a problem with it, bring it up with the guy who made it happen in the first place.

3) its ok to hate the film, but to call it rubbish because its a "copy" just means you werent really a fan of the original as much as you think you are.

 

[HMF]

No, you wanting a photo with a foamhead as something you must have isn't normal or healthy if you are 33. ... Not unless you are very special needs.

Spirit, I agree with you 95% of the time and understand your sentiment but as someone who has been considered and have known many people with "Special Needs" I really have to call out the use of "special needs" as a derogatory term .

 

[HMF]

2) george lucas "its like poetry, it rhymes" if you have a problem with it, bring it up with the guy who made it happen in the first place.

The same guy who they decided to trash his vision of Episode VII of.

 

[WDW1974]

Don't forget your pixie dust!

I never put my thongs on without it!

 

[WDW1974]

Georgie K just showed up talking about the Star Wars fireworks coming this summer to DHS. They aren't doing any previews of the new show tonight for them.

Someone should tell him that he needs to wear a tie. ... What show did they put on for the whores? I am guessing the current one if they couldn't do projections. I do wonder how different they will be. There is only so much Star Wars music, after all.

 

[WDW1974]

I love threads like these. Every post dripping with more acerbic jealousy than the last.

You are welcome. But I don't see anyone who is jealous. Just discussing the nature of spending millions of dollars on freebies for people who are insignificant and don't add to growing the BRAND.

But since you are THE Disney Expert, I guess I'll defer to you ...

 

[WDW1974]

BTW, since I really don't have an active Spirited thread right now thought I'd drop this here (especially since absolutely ZERO news came out of Disney's press event).

The UNI Wand Wavers won't likely be happy, but the Potter effect in California has not been anything like it was in O-Town thus far. Yes, no one should jump to any conclusions based on a month of soft openings and two weeks of the real deal but ... down in what was once orange groves in Anaheim ...

TDA is thrilled with attendance and spending the last two weeks since Harry Potter opened. DLR attendance since Potter had its grand opening is slightly higher than the already strong estimates, with both the tourist and locals demographics, and spending is very strong with the left coast Food & Wine event continuing to blow sales targets out of the water (that was even after they dropped the AP lanyard price by $6 after being embarrassed by Guy Selga and @WDWFigment AKA Tom Bricker ... yep, they really were behind the price drop whether they realize it or not since they are on a vacation in Japan now). The WWoHP hasn't had any impact on the Anaheim parks whatsoever, and attendance info leaking out of UNI to TDA contacts is that USH has had attendance MUCH lower than their optimistic estimates.

Please let me know what the UNI addicts say on the Tweeter ...

 

[WDW1974]

I have to laugh when I remember how close I came to buying an AP earlier this year. I thought I'd be able to enjoy new offerings beginning in spring.

Moral of the story: you can avoid buyer's remorse by not paying to go to WDW. Have no idea how much a Tokyo trip would cost but as someone without kids, I think I'd rather save up and vacation there.

There have been phenomenal deals to Tokyo that I wish I were in the position of being able to take advantage of (planning on going next May right now) ... but funny you bring this up as Bricker apparently upset some of his flock by suggesting that they'd be better off skipping Destination D (another D23 event in a relatively slow time at WDW this fall where they remind you of how great WDW once was and likely never will be again) and going to TDR, which is so far beyond any US Disney quality.

 

[WDW1974]

Certainly true, but the same could be said about the main thrust of this thread: No one is forcing anyone to read the blog posts or twitter feeds, etc of any of the much belittled "lifestylers". I actually find it very odd that people who complain so much about "Pixie Dusters" who are addicted to Disney seem to go out of their way to actually pay attention to what those hated folks do.

Personally, I wouldn't have the slightest clue that "lifestylers" even exist and have blogs and such if it weren't for all the folks on here constantly talking about them.

And you are adding absolutely nothing to the discussion. It obviously interests me and others here and not because we're not at a dessert party on the floor of the Indy stage show listening to Georgie K drone on (he actually is more interesting one on one). I don't get people who join a discussion simply to state they don't think the discussion should be had.

I mean, I think people are total fools if they are planning a meal at Chef Mickey's or paying $600 for a WDW hotel room (or $300!), but I don't go onto threads where people are discussing those topics to call them out or say the discussion isn't worth having.

How Disney uses and abuses the relatively new medium of social media and 'BRAND influencers ' is fascinating to me. But I have no interest in Yoda cupcakes, free or not they are a child's treat.

 

[WDW1974]

Not odd at all, really. Online and in-parks, the non-critical segment of Disney lifestyle consumers contributes to the decline in quality of Disney's domestic parks in several ways. Their fawning acceptance of Disney's decreasing quality and service, and increasing prices, tells management exactly what they want to hear. Their public praise of an ever-diminishing status quo is an enabling tool for those in Disney management who believe there's no line too low that Disney customers won't cross. As collective fandom, they're fodder for manipulation by management (I'm looking at you, D23). Online, their sheer numbers spin the narrative of what Corporate Disney really is, turning it into a Wall Street wet dream of cult-consumerism. Knowingly or not, they're shills for the sharp-pencil brigade that dominates Disney's domestic parks -- sycophants for the only corporation on the planet that gets love when it stamps "sucker" on the foreheads of its customers and then upcharges them for the ink.

Great post. Nothing at all to add. Just hope people read it and get why the Brigantes and Mongellos and Hills and all the smaller whores harm all fans with their never-a-bad-word 'tude toward Disney -- AND UNI.

 

[PhotoDave219]

How Disney uses and abuses the relatively new medium of social media and 'BRAND influencers ' is fascinating to me. But I have no interest in Yoda cupcakes, free or not they are a child's treat.

.... Its akin to having an angry mob at your beck and call there to do your bidding at the drop of a hat. Its very Pavlovian in the conditioning.