Water Parks EMH gone?

[Master Yoda]

Then pick your favorite luxury item: TV, cell phone plan, iPad, restaurant, etc. How many defend AT&T or Apple when they raise their prices?

It's pixie dust talking.

I just "buy" Universal instead.

Instead of a Ferrari with a few dings and a set of bald tires, I buy a new Porche up I-4.

Apple seems to be doing just fine and they are some of the most overly priced electronics in existence. People believe they get value for their money. Whether they actually do or no is largely irrelevant as long as the perception that hey are sticks. Nearly 127 million people every year think WDW is worth the expense.

 

[awilliams4]

Then pick your favorite luxury item: TV, cell phone plan, iPad, restaurant, etc. How many defend AT&T or Apple when they raise their prices?

It's pixie dust talking.

I just "buy" Universal instead.

Instead of a Ferrari with a few dings and a set of bald tires, I buy a new Porche up I-4.

I am one of those that have a tendency to defend Disney during the implementation of something new or the removal of something they used to do.

It is not Pixie Dust from my point of view. My reasoning is usually specific to each topic and can be pretty drawn out. I hated it when EMH were removed from AK because we can no longer go on EE at night.

I suspect in this case however, Disney is cutting costs at the same time they are preparing for their new justification/marketing reason for people to stay onsite instead of off. A lot of complainers joke, call names and suggest that the decision makers at Disney are idiots. Sorry, they are not. They are not Gods but they are not stupid either.

There is a story behind removing EMH from the Water Parks and cutting costs isn't the only part of the story. I don't know the story but it doesn't bother me much that they removed EMH from the Water Parks because I know there is more to this story and something will be replacing either how EMH works or replacing it with something else all together.

 

[ScoutN]

Aquatica which is running at capacity nearly each day with people waiting at the gates to get in is doing something right. Bigtime.

 

[willtravel]

Apple seems to be doing just fine and they are some of the most overly priced electronics in existence. People believe they get value for their money. Whether they actually do or no is largely irrelevant as long as the perception that hey are sticks. Nearly 127 million people every year think WDW is worth the expense.

AMEN to that statement. Just depends on your priorities...

 

[DVCOwner]

Here is the point. I am known as the one that knows Disney inside and out to friends and co-workers. Never does a week go by that someone is asking me advice on their upcoming Disney trip. That said, I have always advised people to stay on the parks when visiting Walt Disney World. So I am sure that I have influenced scores of people to do this. One of the main reason behind this advice is Extra Magic Hours. If Disney continues to cut back on Extra Magic Hours, than I will have to rethink if staying on the parks is still a good value.

Just like me, I am sure many of you on this site are the unofficial Walt Disney World advisor for you friends and co-workers. So Disney might be savings a few dollars cutting back Extra Magic Hours, but I think soon it may cut into hotel bookings and Disney Vacation Club sales.

 

[Disvillain63]

@awilliams4 may have a point...How necessary will EMH be when they finally roll out MyMagic+ (in Disney's viewpoint)? The benefit to staying on-site will be that you can pre-select your Fastpass choices. However, if you stay off-site, this may not be possible until you're in the parks...not sure if this is so...but could be part of the reason they are also 'eliminating' some of the EMH...wean us of EMH and get us to see value in staying on-site and buying packages.

 

[JimboJones123]

I guess I took your post the wrong way. Too many people on these boards (or elsewhere) defend any guest-unfriendly policy Disney makes with comments like "Well, it doesn't bother me, we don't do [insert cut back service here] anyway". I think that attitude is harmful to all guests. Eventually, it will be something that you do care about. I don't care especially for morning EMH's (we have gone to them occasionally), but I that doesn't mean that I think they should eliminate them, even if it technically wouldn't affect me.

Just because you don't like or take advantage of something doesn't mean there aren't literally millions of paying guests who do.

This is a bad thing for guests too. If nobody shows up to EMH and Disney still has to pay to staff it, cutbacks are coming from somewhere else.

It is one thing to cut perks that are far too costly to make worth the benefit to guests, and another to cut perks just to downsize. If no one goes, cut the thing.

 

[awilliams4]

Here is the point. I am known as the one that knows Disney inside and out to friends and co-workers. Never does a week go by that someone is asking me advice on their upcoming Disney trip. That said, I have always advised people to stay on the parks when visiting Walt Disney World. So I am sure that I have influenced scores of people to do this. One of the main reason behind this advice is Extra Magic Hours. If Disney continues to cut back on Extra Magic Hours, than I will have to rethink if staying on the parks is still a good value.

Just like me, I am sure many of you on this site are the unofficial Walt Disney World advisor for you friends and co-workers. So Disney might be savings a few dollars cutting back Extra Magic Hours, but I think soon it may cut into hotel bookings and Disney Vacation Club sales.

I get hit up at work all the time as well. Extra Magic Hours were just a bonus in regards to my advice. No EMH would have no impact on my advice. On site, everytime. If you are doing Disney, then do Disney. To us, the parks represent maybe 40% of our awake time at Disney. The rest is enjoying the resorts and other activities available. If you plan on staying off site, might as well just hit Uni/Busch Gardens/Sea World/Wet N Wild. Getting from/to the parks from off-site is too much of a time hog for me to change my advice.

 

[JimboJones123]

Aquatica which is running at capacity nearly each day with people waiting at the gates to get in is doing something right. Bigtime.

Aquatica is the water park of locals. It is so much cleaner than the Disney parks. Better layout. Cleaner. Better variety. Cleaner. And cleaner.

We won't even use our free Dis water park passes because the guests and parks are filthy.

 

[71jason]

Aquatica which is running at capacity nearly each day with people waiting at the gates to get in is doing something right. Bigtime.

Not bad for a 3 or 4 year-old park.

 

[JimboJones123]

Here is the point. I am known as the one that knows Disney inside and out to friends and co-workers. Never does a week go by that someone is asking me advice on their upcoming Disney trip. That said, I have always advised people to stay on the parks when visiting Walt Disney World. So I am sure that I have influenced scores of people to do this. One of the main reason behind this advice is Extra Magic Hours. If Disney continues to cut back on Extra Magic Hours, than I will have to rethink if staying on the parks is still a good value.

Just like me, I am sure many of you on this site are the unofficial Walt Disney World advisor for you friends and co-workers. So Disney might be savings a few dollars cutting back Extra Magic Hours, but I think soon it may cut into hotel bookings and Disney Vacation Club sales.

This is a bunch of bull.

EMH suck.

We always stay on site and avoid EMH like the plague. Especially morning EMH. They pack the parks and make lines 2x as long the 2 hours before or after EMH. Unless you are park hopping just to be at EMH and be at a different park outside, you are actually getting a worse experience. Even if park hopping, what are you losing in travel time and time lost at less crowded parks.

EMH is for the suckers.

 

[ScoutN]

Not bad for a 3 or 4 year-old park.

Not at all. IIRC it was designed to rung around 800,000 visitors annually. It is doing over double that.

 

[jencor]

@awilliams4 may have a point...How necessary will EMH be when they finally roll out MyMagic+ (in Disney's viewpoint)? The benefit to staying on-site will be that you can pre-select your Fastpass choices. However, if you stay off-site, this may not be possible until you're in the parks...not sure if this is so...but could be part of the reason they are also 'eliminating' some of the EMH...wean us of EMH and get us to see value in staying on-site and buying packages.

This is the way I understood it. I can only hope they decide to keep the parks open longer for all, but I doubt it.

 

[ParentsOf4]

Apple seems to be doing just fine and they are some of the most overly priced electronics in existence. People believe they get value for their money. Whether they actually do or no is largely irrelevant as long as the perception that hey are sticks. Nearly 127 million people every year think WDW is worth the expense.

127 million?

 

[jencor]

I get hit up at work all the time as well. Extra Magic Hours were just a bonus in regards to my advice. No EMH would have no impact on my advice. On site, everytime. If you are doing Disney, then do Disney. To us, the parks represent maybe 40% of our awake time at Disney. The rest is enjoying the resorts and other activities available. If you plan on staying off site, might as well just hit Uni/Busch Gardens/Sea World/Wet N Wild. Getting from/to the parks from off-site is too much of a time hog for me to change my advice.

I would agree to a point, yes I spend 40% of my awake time in Disney parks, it just seems that the other 60% will be heading up the road to Universal and SeaWorld.

 

[Master Yoda]

127 million?

Disney parks nation wide pulled in a little shy of 126.5 million people in 2012.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_amusement_park_rankings

 

[Next Big Thing]

Disney parks nation wide pulled in a little shy of 126.5 million people in 2012.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_amusement_park_rankings

I don't see where that proves the 127 million number. Many of the visitors to the different parks are park hoppers (with a small number being AP's), so either way, that number is completely inaccurate. It's more around 45M if you add everything together, 22M if you account for Park Hopper and AP visits.

EDIT: The original poster was not talking about nation wide. He specified WDW.

 

[jencor]

Disney parks nation wide pulled in a little shy of 126.5 million people in 2012.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_amusement_park_rankings

I would ask, of that 127 million people, how many are counted many, many times. If I spend 5 days in the park am I just 1 or am I 5 separate people to their numbers. If I am 5, then 127 million people did not think so and just a fraction of that number did. Just wondering.

 

[Master Yoda]

I don't see where that proves the 127 million number. Many of the visitors to the different parks are park hoppers (with a small number being AP's), so either way, that number is completely inaccurate. It's more around 45M if you add everything together, 22M if you account for Park Hopper and AP visits.

EDIT: The original poster was not talking about nation wide. He specified WDW.

Does it really freaking matter what the OP specified? Disney parks outrank every park they are up against in the US and are doing just dandy financially which was the entire point.

 

[WDW1974]

EMH is going away soon in its entirety. This is just part of the scaling back and saving of money on labor and ops costs.