“Anyone with a lot of money is included”Someone earlier in this thread said something along the lines of "they don't want you there" as an AP.
For a company campaigning about being inclusive, they sure are working to be exclusive.
You appear to be missing the most significant announcement in Disney press releases.Didn't you read Disney's press release Martin? They said all these new decisions were based on listening to Disney fans voiced displeasure............People wanted easier planning, so you got day of FP....people wanted more options for transportation from the airport, so they got rid of the long bus ride...............people wanted more options for APs, so they gave you more................And I would say this forum leads that category on complaining about FP+
-SkyLiner is trash in the summer. It goes down every day and physically strands people
-Even when it does work, getting to DHS is onerous
There’s a semi-viral clip of that idiot chapek saying basically that…You appear to be missing the most significant announcement in Disney press releases.
Guests indicate that they want to pay even more for the World’s most expensive theme park, so Disney is accommodating them!
It’s nice to feel heard.You appear to be missing the most significant announcement in Disney press releases.
Guests indicate that they want to pay even more for the World’s most expensive theme park, so Disney is accommodating them!
Just used it for 3 days. It was closed due to lightning for about an hour one day…Really? When we just went, my kids and I loved the Skyliner. We stayed at Beach Club, but it was our preferred means of going to DHS over walking or ferry. We had one day where it stalled for about 5 minutes, but otherwise no issues and thought it got us to DHS very quickly and conveniently, even in the morning rush for rope drop.
Our takeaway was we'd wish they'd build more lines of the Skyliner to other places at WDW.
Literally every time I went to DHS or Epcot in June, I observed the SkyLiner down for extended periods. On multiple dates, I heard people on the phone at Beach Club lamenting that they were stranded because they came to International Gateway only to find the SkyLiner down, including one evening after the fireworks.Really? When we just went, my kids and I loved the Skyliner. We stayed at Beach Club, but it was our preferred means of going to DHS over walking or ferry. We had one day where it stalled for about 5 minutes, but otherwise no issues and thought it got us to DHS very quickly and conveniently, even in the morning rush for rope drop.
Our takeaway was we'd wish they'd build more lines of the Skyliner to other places at WDW.
Someone earlier in this thread said something along the lines of "they don't want you there" as an AP.
For a company campaigning about being inclusive, they sure are working to be exclusive.
Oh that's not true at all. FP+ worked great for people who liked to vacation in a specific sort of way and who didn't mind the planning. Tons of them posted in threads on this very site. The problem is that the system didn't work well for enough people and, most importantly, became unworkable for Disney.Nobody really cares about fastpass+…
It’s been two weeks…it’s gone…forgotten
just like a Disney Star Wars movie: highly forgettable
My point was telling Jeffy it’s done, gone, over.Oh that's not true at all. FP+ worked great for people who liked to vacation in a specific sort of way and who didn't mind the planning. Tons of them posted in threads on this very site. The problem is that the system didn't work well for enough people and, most importantly, became unworkable for Disney.
I don't mind the paid part of the new system, but I'm not a fan of not knowing how to at least sketch out the day when we're going with the entire family (six adults, one toddler and two under 1). I guess someone (meaning me) will have to be on their phone buying rides first thing in the morning and then hoping they can get the ones we want and will be able to schedule them around mealtimes, resort breaks, etc. There are many families who deal with schedules each and every day who did not find FP+ such a burden.
In the end, I expect we'll find a way to make the system work for us; DH and I will have a chance to test drive it in October before the family vacation in April. If it turns out that the last minute scheduling is too stressful or does not result in us having a good time, we'll have to find somewhere else to vacation for a few years or so. Honestly, I think forgoing WDW would be tougher on our kids than on us.
Bad weather closes it…technical glitches would too…just like monorails.Literally every time I went to DHS or Epcot in June, I observed the SkyLiner down for extended periods. On multiple dates, I heard people on the phone at Beach Club lamenting that they were stranded because they came to International Gateway only to find the SkyLiner down, including one evening after the fireworks.
I’m good with a pathway from the parks in the summer. I also despise Disney buses, so making that the alternative is not appealing. I would rather walk.
I was referring to your comment that no one cared about FP+. I see the transition from the free FP+ to a paid system as different from price increases that can be expected over time. I think everyone will agree that they would like to pay less for things.My point was telling Jeffy it’s done, gone, over.
pointless to discuss now.
I liked priority seating, $16.99 character meals, $27 Christmas tickets and rooms at Wilderness lodge for $119 too
…what’s funny is you can see people on places such as this everyday talking about how they are happy to pay more…I was referring to your comment that no one cared about FP+. I see the transition from the free FP+ to a paid system as different from price increases that can be expected over time. I think everyone will agree that they would like to pay less for things.
The rich whales really do want the parks to be more expensive. I have seen some of them complaining on various forums many times about too many people being able to afford admission.You appear to be missing the most significant announcement in Disney press releases.
Guests indicate that they want to pay even more for the World’s most expensive theme park, so Disney is accommodating them!
The rich wreck everything. As soon as something becomes popular with them (regardless of how popular it was with lower classes previously), the prices go through the roof.The rich whales really do want the parks to be more expensive. I have seen some of them complaining on various forums many times about too many people being able to afford admission.
Like I always say same idea as pay to win video games.
If they REALLY listened to us.....or at least me... they would offer the ability to buy 'days' in bulk vs. this annual pass hot mess. At least for out of state DVC owners. I would be happy to buy a bucket of days and then use them how/when i want them. Or buy 'credits' that can be used for purchasing days but at a discount. That would solve a few things... one, they could still price daily if they want and require reservations etc... They'd accelerate the cash flow even though they probably can't recognize the revenue until days are used. The target user group of this model are people that go 2-3 times a year with maybe an extra day here and there. Paying full by the day is the most expensive and these annual passes require 2.5+ weeks to breakeven. Sell 'days' or 'credits' you can use for days at a discount.
Gotcha. Wish they’d just call it a seasonal weekday pass, in that case. I’m a fan of weekday APs for locals, but it all depends on job schedule, proximity, etc. Still seems more reasonably priced compared to the higher APs.You get no weekend days at all.
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