News Villains Land Announced for Walt Disney World's Magic Kingdom

[Rhinocerous]

This is the slippery slope fallacy.

I'm not so sure about that. When I used to edit podcasts, I would run a light compression on the audio file, then I would look for any remaining large peaks to smooth out. The problem is that once I got rid of the loudest parts, the peaks that didn't seem so loud before would stand out and I'd smooth them. And so on. If I wasn't careful, the whole file would wind up flat with no real dynamics. Which makes for bad audio.

My point is that once you start looking for things to fix, you will always find something, and the more glaring problems you eliminate, the less egregious the remaining issues have to be to get targeted. There always comes a point when it's better to stop fixing.

 

[JD80]

The show building is not really framed from the other side where villains may be. An entrance on that side doesn't make sense unless they add more theming.

 

[DKampy]

How would we even know if the Invisible Man was in the ride?

Or even if the Mummy wasn't the Invisible Man?

Invisible man will be the cheapest animatronic ever produced

 

[Bocabear]

At some point it stops being a fallacy when we start slipping consistently.

oddly looking for reasons to be outraged....even though they have never caused any problems... That is what I find so annoying... Why even start asking the questions about when they are going to close this attraction or change that attraction over some imaginary complaint...that no one has made.... Like a pre-emptive complaint....
My child has a peanut allergy, so I am going to make sure no one can have peanuts....lol

 

[Rhinocerous]

oddly looking for reasons to be outraged....even though they have never caused any problems... That is what I find so annoying... Why even start asking the questions about when they are going to close this attraction or change that attraction over some imaginary complaint...that no one has made.... Like a pre-emptive complaint....
My child has a peanut allergy, so I am going to make sure no one can have peanuts....lol

That's how the schools do it now.

 

[bpiper]

2) Not sure what you mean you can barely see it, your eyes are directed upwards by the lightning and it is very clearly a body with a noose around their neck suspended from the rafters

I think this all depends upon how long it has been since maintenance has last cleaned the dust off of that scrim. With it being horizontal, it has to collect a lot of dust which effects your view/clarity of what's above it. I know what's above it but when I went on the ride in October, I would be hard pressed to tell you what that blob was up above.

The scrims on Navi, are getting bad also... They are standing out. Went on the ride during previews, you could not tell they were there, now its obvious.

 

[Charlie The Chatbox Ghost]

Gaston, Hook, Ursula, Evil Queen are all featured in Fantasyland

It would make no sense to omit them from Villains land

Characters can exist in multiple places

Forgot about Ursula and the Queen! And yeah excluding them doesn't make sense from a marketing standpoint, but it'd be nice to have more villains represented that aren't elsewhere. Yzma being included is a huge win!

 

[UNCgolf]

Gaston, Hook, Ursula, Evil Queen are all featured in Fantasyland

It would make no sense to omit them from Villains land

Characters can exist in multiple places

It does make sense to omit Gaston and Hook, because they don't make any sense at all grouped in with the overtly evil magical villains.

 

[Timothy_Q]

It does make sense to omit Gaston and Hook, because they don't make any sense at all grouped in with the overtly evil magical villains.

Characters that don't wield magic can't coexist with magical characters in the same land?

Do Elsa and Rapunzel not fit next to Belle and Cinderella?

 

[Gusey]

Hook, Ursula and Evil Queen are only part of book report storylines, so it doesn't really matter if they appear in Villains Land. The only one you could have an argument for is Gaston because you have Gaston's Tavern already existing in Fantasyland and you can meet him there, which you can't the other three

 

[MisterPenguin]

Most of them are canonically dead. Why are we worried about some other minor incongruities?

 

[MistaDee]

oddly looking for reasons to be outraged....even though they have never caused any problems... That is what I find so annoying... Why even start asking the questions about when they are going to close this attraction or change that attraction over some imaginary complaint...that no one has made.... Like a pre-emptive complaint....
My child has a peanut allergy, so I am going to make sure no one can have peanuts....lol

I'm curious why you seem so confident that no complaint has ever been made. Millions of guests a year, decades of operations, multiple locations.... it seems likely to me that someone who might be sensitive to suicide, like my buddy who lost 3 of his squad mates to suicide after they came back, might not expect that a Disney park would contain that specific content. The point is we don't have that complaint data, but Disney certainly does.

This is coming from someone who had no issue with the pirates chasing women or Jessica Rabbit without her trench coat.

Maybe a more interesting question is, why does this bother you so much? Does it bother you that pregnant women are given a heads up before a roller coaster?

A tasteful sign giving a heads up before entry is all that would be required. I really like a previous poster's idea: "this experience is morbid and macabre, and contains depictions of suicide"

 

[Bocabear]

I don't mind a sign...The discussion was about making more changes to the legacy attraction...
Just seems like we go overboard these days to make sure nobody could possibly be offended by anything.... (Except for Television and Movies and games that give us a daily dose of hyper violence that no one seems to complain about....But a 50 year old attraction that continues to be one of the most popular attractions in the park with a fuzzy representation of a skeleton hanging will become a target of outrage....
Sure, post a sign.... I have no problems with that....

 

[RSoxNo1]

Am I alone in thinking that this is far and away the most logical WDW spot for a Shanghai Pirates boat ride for all the villains?

 

[JMcMahonEsq]

oddly looking for reasons to be outraged....even though they have never caused any problems... That is what I find so annoying... Why even start asking the questions about when they are going to close this attraction or change that attraction over some imaginary complaint...that no one has made.... Like a pre-emptive complaint....
My child has a peanut allergy, so I am going to make sure no one can have peanuts....lol

ummm that's pretty much how many schools do things now. No serving peanuts/peanut butter containing foods. No allowing in home made baked goods as their won't be an ingredient list and can't guarantee no peanuts in the food.

 

[celluloid]

ummm that's pretty much how many schools do things now. No serving peanuts/peanut butter containing foods. No allowing in home made baked goods as their won't be an ingredient list and can't guarantee no peanuts in the food.

That was a knee jerk response some(not sure how you define many) districts did over a decade ago. Less than 15 percent of k-12 schools ban any food completely and if you only count public schools even less than that.
The public opinion luckily finally realized that death or severe reaction to ingestion and even less to exposure made more sense to have emergency medication in stock for the low risk potential.
The home made food being brought in is a different subject of liability.

 

[SplashJacket]

Am I alone in thinking that this is far and away the most logical WDW spot for a Shanghai Pirates boat ride for all the villains?

That would be fantastic. Huge show scenes, insane capacity, potential for really cool water lighting effects

 

[JohnD]

there are issues with the Mansion that are "sensitive"?

My "issue" with Mansion would be seeing the show building from the coaster.

 

[JohnD]

Haunted Mansion being shoe horned in to Villians Land sounds great to me. Then a few things around it in Liberty Square can turn into a mansion shop, restaurant, and meet and greet. The rest of Liberty Square is an extension of Frontierland and the Haunted mini land takes us from Fantasyland into Villans. Then you still have some Frontierland stuff along that walk since Cars is taking over.

It's always been funny to me that Disneyland Frontier attractions were shoe horned to Liberty Square to give it more...like the riverboat and saloon.

But the ghosts aren't "villians". They're "happy haunts".

 

[Brer Panther]

But the ghosts aren't "villians".

With the possible exception of the bride in the attic.