Magic Feather
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I'd bet it has more to do with not wanting to check for vaccinations.
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Vaccinated Out Of State Visitors Now Allowed in CA Theme Parks
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ToTBellHop
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If Disney understands (not that the state has said this publicly, but I presume Disney knows more than we do) that they can open to all on June 15, I can understand not feeling a need to verify vaccine (vaccination is, unfortunately, political right now, and no one seems to want to touch the hot potato) and exclude children for 7 weeks. That’s not very Disney. Plus, they operate parks elsewhere without vaccine requirements. It’s an interesting message if Disney subscribes to such a restriction. Perhaps they’d rather risk losing a bit of money for 7 weeks than implicitly admit the way they are running WDW is not safe, which I don’t think they believe.
Zorro 2.0
Member
There is an irony in that a fully vaccinated Las Vegas resident (about forty minutes driving time from the CA border and about four hours from Anaheim) is prohibited from going to DL, but a non-vaccinated Alturas, CA resident (near the OR border and about eleven hours drive from the park) can go.
chadwpalm
Well-Known Member
- In the Parks
- No
Yup. Bag check, temperature screenings, ID check, vaccine check, forensics check to see if you forged your vaccine card....you'd be lucky to get into the park by 2pm.
ToTBellHop
Well-Known Member
Happy to have learned there are others from out of state who will keep an eye on this so I don’t have to obsess so much.
With apologies to our Californians, your state’s rules are ridiculous and very hard to keep track of. And I’m married to an attorney.
With apologies to our Californians, your state’s rules are ridiculous and very hard to keep track of. And I’m married to an attorney.
el_super
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CA knows what the community spread in CA looks like. They dont know what NV or OR looks like. I'd rather they focus on California rather than try to figure out what is happening in every other state so some people can go to a theme park.
Follow the science. We're talking about vaccinated people.
chadwpalm
Well-Known Member
- In the Parks
- No
Google "covid infection rate by state". You can get a county by county case rate in 5 seconds for any state. I don't buy that CA only knows or cares what CA looks like. You'd be a bad state representative if you didn't care what your neighboring states were looking like (oh wait...).
Rather they focus on California? Let me toss this out for ya. California ranks 35th in percentage of population fully vaccinated. One of the slowest vaccine rollouts in the country. That means 68% of the states in this country have more people per capita fully vaccinated than California. Yet a Californian-only theme park is supposed to be much safer?
Californian Elitist
Well-Known Member
The rules are indeed strange.
Oh well.
Oh well.
TP2000
Well-Known Member
Right? The mind boggles at how Science & Data are now used, or ignored entirely.
The only thing I can think is that Disneyland just knows it's a lawsuit waiting to happen, and a Twitter mob enraged at big bad "Disney", so they just can't deal with it.
Honestly, any company worth their business license wouldn't expect their front-line employees making a few bucks over minimum wage to try and enforce a murky policy like this. It's an HR nightmare. So I can see TDA's viewpoint on that.
Don't worry, even reasonably smart Californians can't keep track of what Sacramento says or does from week to week.
We don't expect non-Californians to try to keep up. Especially if it involves Science and/or Data.
Our only request is that you don't call the state "Cali".
Agreed. But to follow the science you have to keep the goalposts where they are for at least a few months. Sacramento put the goalposts on wheels 10 months ago. Whatever the mandate or metric is this month a business must follow, it will be changed within 30 days.
TP2000
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Rather they focus on California? Let me toss this out for ya. California ranks 35th in percentage of population fully vaccinated. One of the slowest vaccine rollouts in the country. That means 68% of the states in this country have more people per capita fully vaccinated than California. Yet a Californian-only theme park is supposed to be much safer?
Stop using hard, factual data. It's not nice.
To be fair to our lower-middle mediocrity, I double checked just now on Bloomberg. Today California ranks 32nd of all 50 states for total vaccinations. As of this afternoon, 26.1% of Californians are fully vaccinated.
Maine is in 1st place with 34% fully vaccinated, and Alabama is in 50th place with 20.1% vaccinated.
California is in a very uninspiring 32nd place with 26.1%.
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At this point I think Disney is waiting on their lawyers to get the OK and make the announcement
el_super
Well-Known Member
Yes you can and suddenly it all makes sense:
California’s coronavirus case rate is now the lowest in the continental U.S., an achievement that reflects months of hard-won progress against the pandemic in the aftermath of the state’s devastating fall-and-winter surge.
The state’s latest seven-day rate of new cases — 40.3 per 100,000 people — is dramatically lower than the nationwide rate of 135.3 and edged only by Hawaii, 39.1, over that same time period, according to data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
California's coronavirus case rate now the lowest in the continental U.S.
California's latest seven-day new case rate — 40.3 per 100,000 people — is dramatically lower than the nationwide rate of 135.3 over that same time period.
www.latimes.com
Darkbeer1
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>>Disneyland and Universal Studios Hollywood are not allowing out-of-state visitors yet.
Until further notice, only California residents are allowed to visit Disneyland and Disney California Adventure theme parks, according to Disney officials.<<
www.ocregister.com
Until further notice, only California residents are allowed to visit Disneyland and Disney California Adventure theme parks, according to Disney officials.<<
Disney, Universal, Knott’s and Six Flags can allow fully vaccinated out-of-state visitors — but they aren’t doing it yet
Revised guidelines in Gov. Gavin Newsom’s Blueprint for a Safer Economy now allow fully vaccinated out-of-state visitors to attend activities or events that are currently limited to California resi…
www.ocregister.com
SoCalDisneyLover
Well-Known Member
Universal Studios has literally been open for 5 days. Disneyland isn't even open for another 9 days. The parks have been closed for over 400 days.>>Disneyland and Universal Studios Hollywood are not allowing out-of-state visitors yet.
Until further notice, only California residents are allowed to visit Disneyland and Disney California Adventure theme parks, according to Disney officials.<<
Disney, Universal, Knott’s and Six Flags can allow fully vaccinated out-of-state visitors — but they aren’t doing it yet
Revised guidelines in Gov. Gavin Newsom’s Blueprint for a Safer Economy now allow fully vaccinated out-of-state visitors to attend activities or events that are currently limited to California resi…
Any chance people can chill and be a little patient while more people get vaccinated, and allow the virus spread to continue decreasing? Parks aren't going anywhere, and science says you may very well survive without going to a CA amusement park for just a little while longer. So can you let the days/weeks play out until rules can be relaxed some more?
No? OK, just asking.
Tha Realest
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As I process this all I think it's the opposite. I don't think they want to take on the hassle/frustration/brunt of having to check vaccine cards. If I had to guess I'd say they won't remove the "CA only" restriction until or when the state removes it.
GhostHostLady
Member
Plus add in checking CA residency for everyone else. What a nightmare.
ToTBellHop
Well-Known Member
I suspect their patience would eventually run thin (like it did over the Covid closure), but they can certainly afford to be patient until summer.