Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
“Don’t vote for anyone but Iger! Things can get worse! You have NO idea!”
That’s “slow”…seems like they can’t go to the potty without an escort.
That’s an intellectually invalid thought pattern.
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That’s “slow”…seems like they can’t go to the potty without an escort.
That’s an intellectually invalid thought pattern.
James Alucobond
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That is not what the people you responded to said. You seem to be arguing because you like to make a specific argument, not because anyone actually brought up the point you imagine.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
There are 541 posts in this thread. Nobody here is a “stranger” to multiple statements, platitudes, or rather pathetic inferences.
Tha Realest
Well-Known Member
Elections are often referendums on the incumbent; a board election is no different. I’ve seen no indication the status quo is headed in the right direction. They build what they want - notice soulless DVCs and retirement communities have no problem finding cash and liquidity - but here we are almost a year and a half into Iger’s second reign and the parks remain a disaster. Other than resort parking fees, things have continued to stagnate there.
The status quo means ever increasing G+ and ILL costs because “that’s what the guests want.” No thanks. Time to give someone else a try. Maybe a board that’s not so tech-heavy would appreciate the guest experience more.
The status quo means ever increasing G+ and ILL costs because “that’s what the guests want.” No thanks. Time to give someone else a try. Maybe a board that’s not so tech-heavy would appreciate the guest experience more.
lazyboy97o
Well-Known Member
Genie+ is a direct result of Rasulo’s view of the parks and how they needed to be monetized.
Tha Realest
Well-Known Member
A+ spin to blame the guy that’s been gone a decade for G+.
Are Iger and D’Amaro really that feckless that they can’t change this course?
lazyboy97o
Well-Known Member
Bothering to understand history and what was set up before isn’t spin. But that’s not convenient so it must be cast aside and ignored. The whole Next Gen initiative came out of Rasulo’s view of the parks as a mature market. People constantly complain about how long projects take at Disney but conveniently insist things turn on a dime when they want.
Iger and D’Amaro probably won’t alter course too much but that doesn’t mean you should lie to yourself and others and claim that heading down that same course faster will somehow yield a different result.
Casper Gutman
Well-Known Member
Yes, they are. That doesn't mean they should be. It's often a recipe for disaster by short-sighted voters suffering from normalcy bias, unable to imagine how much worse things can get.
Peltz, Rasulo, and Perlmutter are very, very well known individuals. We know what they did at Disney and elsewhere. It's deeply telling that none of our Peltz-friendly posters actually try to advocate FOR them. Instead, it's endless screaming about Iger. I've screamed about Iger a lot. That doesn't mean I welcome leaders who are far, far worse in very similar ways.
This isn't a hard concept unless you're blinded by rage or... other motives.
Here's how Peltz is going to make the magic happen...
Y'all remember his first attempt at getting on the Board and his concern for guests at the parks?
Apparently, he doesn't.
variety.com
If you want to give someone a "wake up call," you don't set the mattress on fire. We know we have someone in this thread who is on record that he'd want to see Disney and the parks utterly fail if that would mean Iger's ouster. That's what happens when spite is your motivation. So, don't think that some of the pro-Peltz contingent are making persuasive arguments.
"Let's shake things up" without a plan for rebuilding is just anarchy. And some people are into anarchy. But anarchy will paralyze any growth in the parks. They won't have a coherent action plan because those "shaking things up" will sabotage any plan because they're committed to "shaking things up."
Rasulo and Perlmutter are motivated by spite. Peltz is motivated by greed. Only someone who wants to see the parks burn would vote for them. And there are some who would do that gleefully out of spite.
If you want "to shake things up" at least vote for the other non-Peltz/Rasulo candidates. They're not committed to spite.
“Fundamentally and crudely, we want the stock to go up”
Y'all remember his first attempt at getting on the Board and his concern for guests at the parks?
Apparently, he doesn't.
Trian’s Disney Shares Have Gained $500 Million in Value So Far This Month. Why Is Activist Investor Nelson Peltz Still Unhappy?
Disney shares are up 16% in February, boosting Trian's holdings by $500 million. But activist investor Nelson Peltz is still agitating for change.
variety.com
If you want to give someone a "wake up call," you don't set the mattress on fire. We know we have someone in this thread who is on record that he'd want to see Disney and the parks utterly fail if that would mean Iger's ouster. That's what happens when spite is your motivation. So, don't think that some of the pro-Peltz contingent are making persuasive arguments.
"Let's shake things up" without a plan for rebuilding is just anarchy. And some people are into anarchy. But anarchy will paralyze any growth in the parks. They won't have a coherent action plan because those "shaking things up" will sabotage any plan because they're committed to "shaking things up."
Rasulo and Perlmutter are motivated by spite. Peltz is motivated by greed. Only someone who wants to see the parks burn would vote for them. And there are some who would do that gleefully out of spite.
If you want "to shake things up" at least vote for the other non-Peltz/Rasulo candidates. They're not committed to spite.
peter11435
Well-Known Member
Rasulo personally killed projects that were in the works for WDW that were intended to boost capacity. Including one very significant addition. He killed them and pivoted towards capacity management.
lazyboy97o
Well-Known Member
No, the guy who killed the Potter Swatters definitely maybe had a change of heart and is going to bring forth the Epic Smashers.
Brian
Well-Known Member
FWIW, he was correct in at least the latter part. Managing demand was and remains an important strategy to combat negative guest experience associated with overcrowding.
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
How convenient an old P&R guy (who are always hated) just recently resurfaced and is now all of the sudden given full responsibility for genie
Right…no decoy there
Right…no decoy there
Sirwalterraleigh
Premium Member
Wait a Minute
Is that what the Orlando mid Level management gossip chain said?
Perhaps they need a refresher on what command structure looks like? Perhaps they also need to think back and recognize that the parks mandate has been to make more while spending less since prior to pressler. Including this tight pants twit who posed for Instagram and now the desperate name tags believe they’re all of a sudden “saved”
The power dynamics never change
peter11435
Well-Known Member
You need to stop involving yourself in topics you have no knowledge of anymore.
Rasulo personally killed projects and pushed for Next Gen…
peter11435
Well-Known Member
This isn’t news dude. We knew this 10 years ago. Where have you been?How convenient an old P&R guy (who are always hated) just recently resurfaced and is now all of the sudden given full responsibility for genie
Right…no decoy there
peter11435
Well-Known Member
No
Brian
Well-Known Member
You're right. Guests write all the time in their surveys how much they love wall to wall crowds. Really makes for good intent to return metrics.
/s
peter11435
Well-Known Member
Managing demand is only an acceptable response if you’re already doing everything you can do to increase supply to meet demand.