Unsure who to vote for regarding the Walt Disney Co. Board

[Sirwalterraleigh]

*sigh*

Don't elect people who are substantially worse then current board members and expect things to get better. Voting for "change" without considering what that change will likely look like is very, very foolish.

The boogeyman returns…

Don’t ever change…cause it may result in something worse…no matter how badly it’s going now.

Be brave, young fawn

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Why on earth would someone not consider the type of change being proposed? New personnel with worse ideas is not an improvement.

The counter to that is empowering those failing as a “mandate”

 

[BrianLo]

The counter to that is empowering those failing as a “mandate”

You seem to be quite cagey on this topic. I’m still not sure if you are advocating to vote for or against Peltz?

 

[James Alucobond]

The boogeyman returns…

Don’t ever change…cause it may result in something worse…no matter how badly it’s going now.

Be brave, young fawn

The post you quoted just says vote for a good change, not a bad one. It suggests considering the outcome.

 

[lazyboy97o]

The post you quoted just says vote for a good change, not a bad one. It suggests considering the outcome.

My doctor says I need to change my diet because my cholesterol is too high. I think I’ll try a cheese omelette diet since it’s a change from my current diet.

 

[Casper Gutman]

The boogeyman returns…

Don’t ever change…cause it may result in something worse…no matter how badly it’s going now.

Be brave, young fawn

No one's saying "don't ever change."

They're saying "don't change in a specific way that history and logic shows will reinforce and amplify all the tendencies you endlessly complain about."

Demanding clearly disastrous change just because you're mad at the status quo is the act of a child throwing a tantrum,

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

The post you quoted just says vote for a good change, not a bad one. It suggests considering the outcome.

Disney will not put up board members not Iger approved! And he won’t get a successor…so what options are available?

My doctor says I need to change my diet because my cholesterol is too high. I think I’ll try a cheese omelette diet since it’s a change from my current diet.

Sounds pretty tasty…actually

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

No one's saying "don't ever change."

They're saying "don't change in a specific way that history and logic shows will reinforce and amplify all the tendencies you endlessly complain about."

Demanding clearly disastrous change just because you're mad at the status quo is the act of a child throwing a tantrum,

See above…how long do you wait on “internal change”

You’re underestimating this is all about ego.

Or are you gonna say he “retired once” too? Which is beyond stupid

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

You seem to be quite cagey on this topic. I’m still not sure if you are advocating to vote for or against Peltz?

I know how doing exactly what Iger wants will be taken…and that isn’t good

But for the 15th time - this is NOT a binary choice.

You can do what the cool kids do and vote for neither “side”

It will be taken exactly as it should be: “this isn’t good enough”

 

[Casper Gutman]

See above…how long do you wait on “internal change”

You’re underestimating this is all about ego.

Or are you gonna say he “retired once” too? Which is beyond stupid

You wait until the possibility of positive (or at least not cataclysmically negative) change presents itself. Otherwise you're just destroying things because you're angry.

And yes, there's a lot of ego on both sides of the Disney board room struggle and in this thread. That doesn't mean anything.

 

[Casper Gutman]

I know how doing exactly what Iger wants will be taken…and that isn’t good

But for the 15th time - this is NOT a binary choice.

You can do what the cool kids do and vote for neither “side”

It will be taken exactly as it should be: “this isn’t good enough”

Cool. Vote for neither side. That way, when Peltz gets a foot in the door and makes park investment even more rare and forces other moves that harm the long term health of the company to pad his pockets in the short term you can pretend you don't bare any responsibility.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Has anyone voted for me yet?! Nobody liked my promises?!

I like you better than the options as presented

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

You wait until the possibility of positive (or at least not cataclysmically negative) change presents itself. Otherwise you're just destroying things because you're angry.

And yes, there's a lot of ego on both sides of the Disney board room struggle and in this thread. That doesn't mean anything.

I’m not destroying anything…

Bob

Is

!!!


I know some people are slow on the uptake…but gotta at least let the neurons fire occasionally

 

[James Alucobond]

I’m not destroying anything…

Bob

Is

!!!


I know some people are slow on the uptake…but gotta at least let the neurons fire occasionally

Your contention is that Iger created the conditions for options that are bad across the board, so why are you even arguing for one option over the others? No one you’re rambling at is “slow on the uptake”. They’d just rather not cut off their nose to spite their face at the moment. Your posts are incessant yelling at clouds without any discernible logic.

 

[BrianLo]

I know how doing exactly what Iger wants will be taken…and that isn’t good

But for the 15th time - this is NOT a binary choice.

You can do what the cool kids do and vote for neither “side”

It will be taken exactly as it should be: “this isn’t good enough”

Well then isn’t the correct decision to vote against Iger and also vote against Peltz/Rasulo?

Doesn’t that send the best message?

But the question posed is should one vote for Peltz and I thought you’d be a bit more clear, which you still aren’t really being.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Well then isn’t the correct decision to vote against Iger and also vote against Peltz/Rasulo?

Doesn’t that send the best message?

But the question posed is should one vote for Peltz and I thought you’d be a bit more clear, which you still aren’t really being.

I would follow the playbook from our “godfather” Roy E…

If you recall…his campaign was to not re-elect evil Mike to the board…which resulted in stripping him of chairmanship in year one and a remarkably dignified - in retrospect - resignation in year two

But I’m probably asked too much, eh?

If the Igerites (something that needs ointment put on it) round here think I’m pro Nelly/Ike/dull Jay…that would be a bad read.

I’m pro-new leadership. Way…way…past due

But we’re missing our Roy.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Your contention is that Iger created the conditions for options that are bad across the board, so why are you even arguing for one option over the others? No one you’re rambling at is “slow on the uptake”. They’d just rather not cut off their nose to spite their face at the moment. Your posts are incessant yelling at clouds without any discernible logic.

I’m not arguing for Peltz. You can go back and find anything to the contrary…you won’t find it.

But Bob has to go. So all choices at present are bad.

Withholding votes for the current board is the minimum responsible choice.

And all the current problems are on Iger. Let’s not be silly about that

 

[BrianLo]

I would follow the playbook from our “godfather” Roy E…

If you recall…his campaign was to not re-elect evil Mike to the board…which resulted in stripping him of chairmanship in year one and a remarkably dignified - in retrospect - resignation in year two

But I’m probably asked too much, eh?

If the Igerites (something that needs ointment put on it) round here think I’m pro Nelly/Ike/dull Jay…that would be a bad read.

I’m pro-new leadership. Way…way…past due

But we’re missing our Roy.

I’m just saying that’s an option and the one that best sends the message you want to send.

Vote against Iger by not nominating him to the board. You can and probably should do that.

To send a message to Rasulo/Peltz (and Perlmutter) - one would also vote against them. You don’t need to pick chaos to cast a vote against Iger, he’s fortunately also up for Renomination.

This is probably what you are doing, but you aren’t being super clear to the observer.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

I’m just saying that’s an option and the one that best sends the message you want to send.

Vote against Iger by not nominating him to the board. You can and probably should do that.

To send a message to Rasulo/Peltz (and Perlmutter) - one would also vote against them. You don’t need to pick chaos to cast a vote against Iger, he’s fortunately also up for Renomination.

This is probably what you are doing, but you aren’t being super clear to the observer.

That’s what I already did…for my chunk

I considered trian as a protest vote…but to what end?

In the end…I’m a purist. Believing quality will win out. So start making QUALITY. Bob got lost in branding and cocktail parties at symposiums. His time as come

If I just want money…I’ll buy Exxon

I suggest others do the same.

 

[James Alucobond]

I’m not arguing for Peltz. You can go back and find anything to the contrary…you won’t find it.

But Bob has to go. So all choices at present are bad.

Withholding votes for the current board is the minimum responsible choice.

And all the current problems are on Iger. Let’s not be silly about that

If this is your stance, then it is unclear why you quote the people you do and call them "slow".