Unreleased Fantasyland Expansion Concept Art

RSoxNo1

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Until it has Fastpasses gone in 60 minutes every day and a standby line that never drops below 60 minutes -- most won't agree it is better than TSMM.

We would have loved to ride TSMM 2-3x a day at DHS like every other attraction in WDW on our last trip. Truth is, it s THE hardest draw in the parks. Very much like Olivander's at WWoHP. There just isn't enough capacity to counter demand at either.

Keep in mind that TSMM has a low capacity and a high demand - that creates the high waits. Of all the attractions in that park, it's the one that has the highest demand for all guests. It also can't accomodate everyone that passes through the turnstyles.

Mermaid is likely going to have twice the capacity of TSMM, so even if the initial demand is greater, it will be more capable of meeting that demand.
 

Mickey_777

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All indications are that this will be a solid "D" ticket.

Don't set yourself up for disappointment by thinking this will be an "E" !

Is a Solid D ticket equivalent to a weak E ticket? :ROFLOL:

Anyways...it's all about the popularity. The people ultimately determined the ticket status of an attraction based on whether or not they get in line.
 

RSoxNo1

Well-Known Member
Actually that has nothing at all to do with a ride's ticket status.

I would argue that popularity were to play a part if they were actually using the scale for the actual tickets today. If we had to pay to get on attractions, demand would be the driving factor today.

Having said that, the scale then becomes distorted and no longer relevant if it's based on demand and not scope of an attraction.
 

Jrn14

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What would you call the Nemo Omnimover? I would say its' a B ticket or the very best a C ticket? Amirite?
 

BigThunderMatt

Well-Known Member
I'm pretty sure ticket status was based on capacity. Weren't small world, pirates, and mansion, all confirmed people eaters, e-tickets back in the day?
 

RSoxNo1

Well-Known Member
What would you call the Nemo Omnimover? I would say its' a B ticket or the very best a C ticket? Amirite?

I would say it's a solid C-Ticket. I think any dark ride with modest theming has to qualify as at least a C-Ticket, with B-s reserved for Carnival type rides like Dumbo or The Mad Tea Party.

I know that many people dislike The Seas with Nemo and Friends because it replaced the Seacabs, but that's irrelevant. If you take the attraction out of Epcot and put it in Fantasyland it's at the very least comparable to Winnie the Pooh and Peter Pan, while I would argue that it's better than both.

Another point on the ticket system - I can't think of a non-nighttime/fireworks show that I would consider higher than a D-Ticket. Most shows would be in that C/D ticket category for me.
 

MotherOfBirds

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Could we please move past this obsession with classifying rides we know little about as of yet? Yes, LM uses Omnimovers, but so does HM (E), so vehicles do not necessarily denote anything. I don't think that we (as a very excitable fanbase) can call this one right now. We're really better off trusting Lee & Friends until the ride actually opens and then we can all bicker freely :lol:

And I could do without Nemo as well, simply because we've been inundated with Nemo & Stitch for 7+ years. I'd suggest that TDO just condense it all into one attraction where guests are simply beaten senseless with Nemo plushies while playing a recording of Judi Dench reading the reviews.

Is it true that LM is supposed to have some new technological advances in AA's or special effects? Not grand leaps, mind you, but things like making Ariel's hair behave as it would under water, etc.
 
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stphnbogert

Yeah. I don't know who goes into any of the parks and says, "Honey lets just go on the D ticket attractions today." It was a thing of the past. Let it go. Every attraction is a great attraction to each its own. For Auntie Richard Philarmagic could be an E-ticket attraction. The letters are just an opinion now. I think no matter what lettering the FLE attractions will get they will all have an extremely LONG queue line for a long time like TSM.
 

lazyboy97o

Well-Known Member
Yeah. I don't know who goes into any of the parks and says, "Honey lets just go on the D ticket attractions today." It was a thing of the past. Let it go. Every attraction is a great attraction to each its own. For Auntie Richard Philarmagic could be an E-ticket attraction. The letters are just an opinion now. I think no matter what lettering the FLE attractions will get they will all have an extremely LONG queue line for a long time like TSM.
It's not opinion when the system is still used internally. Why do people continue to claim opinion as king when this is not a matter of opinion? We may guess as to where attractions currently stand in the eyes of Disney, but it means nothing when compared to Disney.
 

yeti

Well-Known Member
The typical "ticket" ride classification is different for everybody. As I said before, it depends on who you ask.


Just sayin'...
 

TP2000

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I'm pretty sure ticket status was based on capacity. Weren't small world, pirates, and mansion, all confirmed people eaters, e-tickets back in the day?

It wasn't based so much on "capacity" as it was on the costs to operate the thing. Pirates of the Caribbean was an E Ticket because it was a massive facility loaded with special effects and dozens of animatronics that required a great amount of resources, labor and investment to keep going.

I have a hunch that if this Little Mermaid 6 minute long Omnimover ride loaded with animatronics in an elaborately decorated environment had opened in the 1960's or 70's, it would have been classified as an E Ticket. But by today's standards, where people expect physical thrills or bizarrely unique ride systems to classify something as a "Big WOW!", it's going to be considered a D Ticket.

I'm cool with the D Ticket classification, as I still think it's going to be a huge hit and wildly popular, particularly with girls and young women in their late teens and twenties.

On another board, a trustworthy Disneyland CM just posted a report that CM's have recently been walking through the show building at California Adventure and that Al Lutz's first report of soft openings of DCA's Little Mermaid ride by April, 2011 are right on track. Four months from now WDW fans will be able to see the ride they'll be getting via YouTube videos and non-stop Internet coverage as the first ride reports come in. Not too long now, regardless of what ticket you assign it. :lol:

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SeaBase86

Member
Nemo bred much needed live into that pavilion, without the overlay that pavilion would be dead.

They could of done it better. They could have kept the hydrolators and seacabs but had Nemo themed exhibits at SeaBase. Everyone would have won in that situation.
 

cbconglom

Well-Known Member
It wasn't based so much on "capacity" as it was on the costs to operate the thing. Pirates of the Caribbean was an E Ticket because it was a massive facility loaded with special effects and dozens of animatronics that required a great amount of resources, labor and investment to keep going.

I have a hunch that if this Little Mermaid 6 minute long Omnimover ride loaded with animatronics in an elaborately decorated environment had opened in the 1960's or 70's, it would have been classified as an E Ticket. But by today's standards, where people expect physical thrills or bizarrely unique ride systems to classify something as a "Big WOW!", it's going to be considered a D Ticket.

I'm cool with the D Ticket classification, as I still think it's going to be a huge hit and wildly popular, particularly with girls and young women in their late teens and twenties.

On another board, a trustworthy Disneyland CM just posted a report that CM's have recently been walking through the show building at California Adventure and that Al Lutz's first report of soft openings of DCA's Little Mermaid ride by April, 2011 are right on track. Four months from now WDW fans will be able to see the ride they'll be getting via YouTube videos and non-stop Internet coverage as the first ride reports come in. Not too long now, regardless of what ticket you assign it. :lol:

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Wow April? Here's hoping.. I can't wait!
 

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