Universal UK?

Gusey

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Planning talks are not planning approval, which is a very specific and very open process in England.
Last we've heard was that both local council and the UK government are behind the project, and that the park is set to be approved by the end of the month, although it won't be mentioned in the same speech alongside Heathrow's 3rd runway etc. It will be down to Universal to announce it. The UK government has also announced plans for improved infrastructure in that area, particularly a new train link between Oxford and Bedford
 

cjkeating

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Have they specifically talked about passing legislation that would negate the local planning process? Or is this just financial incentives?
There is very little in the public domain about what has actually been discussed between Universal and the Government (because, why does there need to be right now?) but when it was first announced there was talk from the previous Government that this would be treated as a 'Project of National Importance' or something to that regard which means it bypasses the local planning applicaiton stage. The benefit of this is whilst it may take longer is that assuming the local planning application is approved chances are it gets appealed at then gets reffered to a national planning level so in effect it is skipping the appeal step. Not that NIMBY's couldn't take the decision to the High Court etc. but so far it seems like the local area is mostly supportive and there aren't huge red flags that could be grounds for a realistic appeal.
 

Ag11gani

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Have they specifically talked about passing legislation that would negate the local planning process? Or is this just financial incentives?
Specific legislation would not be required, central government (or rather the Secretary of State) can “call in” any planning application and approve (or reject) it themselves. The Secretary of State’s decision can be subject to judicial review, however.
 

DonniePeverley

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It's going to take the UK 15 years to build a runway on an exisiting airport.


A runway. It's a wide road, built into a field. That's it. It's going to take 15 years.


Add into that it's going to take 5 years of just planning for this runway. And this is with more relaxed planning rules announced.


Good luck with Unviersal dealing with this nonsense.
 

Robbiem

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Original Poster
I hadn't realized this was brownfield too. Comcast is specializing in troubled properties.
Anyone know why it is brownfield? I saw pits on the site so maybe lead?

Part of the site used to be a brickworks. Planning restrictions in the UK mean most development is on brownfield land like the 2012 Olympic Park, the docklands Canary Wharf office area and the new Battersea power station complex.

It will be interesting to see how this progresses. As a Brit I’d love to see a world class resort here but we have more than our fair share of NIMBYs who will campaign to stop things - the former planned London Resort Paramount park was stopped, in part, becuase of a rare spider. That said the current government is looking for good news stories so this could get more support.

I really hope this opens and is a success, as well as benefiting the UK it might also spir Disney to do more in Paris, a rising tide lifts all boats 😀✌️
 

JoeCamel

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Part of the site used to be a brickworks. Planning restrictions in the UK mean most development is on brownfield land like the 2012 Olympic Park, the docklands Canary Wharf office area and the new Battersea power station complex.

It will be interesting to see how this progresses. As a Brit I’d love to see a world class resort here but we have more than our fair share of NIMBYs who will campaign to stop things - the former planned London Resort Paramount park was stopped, in part, becuase of a rare spider. That said the current government is looking for good news stories so this could get more support.

I really hope this opens and is a success, as well as benefiting the UK it might also spir Disney to do more in Paris, a rising tide lifts all boats 😀✌️
so nothing like what was under Epic

Saw the rare spider but that site was never suitable for a park imo
 

DonniePeverley

Well-Known Member
I hadn't realized this was brownfield too. Comcast is specializing in troubled properties.
Anyone know why it is brownfield? I saw pits on the site so maybe lead?

Brownfield in the UK means it's easier to develop on, as opposed to green land.

An ominious warning is that Astra Zeneca have walked out of the UK building a new plant, due to problems dealing with the new UK government .
 

Jon81uk

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the former planned London Resort Paramount park was stopped, in part, becuase of a rare spider.
That was a really bad location which had a lot to do with it. Whereas Universal has chosen somewhere close to motorways and rail lines.
I hadn't realized this was brownfield too. Comcast is specializing in troubled properties.
Anyone know why it is brownfield? I saw pits on the site so maybe lead?
Former brickworks. Should go I their favour as less chance to object compared to a new site.
 

DonniePeverley

Well-Known Member
That was a really bad location which had a lot to do with it. Whereas Universal has chosen somewhere close to motorways and rail lines.

Former brickworks. Should go I their favour as less chance to object compared to a new site.


It wasn't a bad location, it was prime real estate in a busy heartland. Same with the London Sphere, stopped because residents miles away didn't want Light - even though there was no residential building anywhere near it.

Everyone knows the UK planning system is a mess, and for all the new governments talk of doing something about it, we've seen nothing. They literally spent millions building a tunnel at huge delays, during HS2 train construction to save bats - most of which no one can find now anyways. That's rite BATS.
 

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