Universal Puts Disney's Reopening on Defensive

Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
Haven't read the whole thread, but glad to see reality sinking in with Disney that requiring everyone to wear masks in Orlando in the summer isn't feasible. That has nothing to do with anyone's "rights" -- it's just the reality of 95 degrees and 90% humidity.
Thatā€™s a complete exaggeration....

Daily highs in the summer are typically on 93 on average and RH 75%....so only like a 115 heat index and sweat city...

Calm down, man šŸ˜Ž
 
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DisneyDelirious

Super structures are my specialty!
Premium Member
Compliance levels are completely up to TWDC. If they are aggressively enforced with immediate ejections, compliance will not be a problem. The selfie stick ban was enforced fairly aggressively and took about a week to really stick.
I can confirm my observations have included the firm enforcement of selfie sticks and that there appears to be a pretty high level of compliance. In should say Iā€™m not a local and only spend about 22 days a year on property. I witnessed enforcemenr on two separate occasions. Addressed by a CM at the entrance to POC. Was even offered a locker for free to store it in when she started to get cranky. Refused. Manager called and again offered this option. Refused to store it or take it out of the park. Manager politely let her know that she would need to leave the park if unwilling. The manager along with 2 security politely escorted her that way.
Second occasion was at AK. Kilimanjaro Safari. CM and Guest were both polite and Guest secured it in her bag.
 

havoc315

Well-Known Member
Who asked the cast members? They didnt take a vote of every cast member. No one asked my husband what he wanted. This decision was backed by a few union representatives, not the cast as a whole.

Iā€™m not saying NO CMs support this, but acting like every CM grateful for this rule is just as ridiculous as saying none want it either. CMs didnā€™t have a say.

Of course CMs had a say. Nobody is saying there is universal unanimity. But the union is the ELECTED leadership of the cast members. If the majority of cast members are really strongly opposed to this policy, the union leadership is in trouble.
 

ToTBellHop

Well-Known Member
And yet they havenā€™t. Hmmmm?? It looks like Captain America might be wrong.
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Sirwalterraleigh

Premium Member
Of course CMs had a say. Nobody is saying there is universal unanimity. But the union is the ELECTED leadership of the cast members. If the majority of cast members are really strongly opposed to this policy, the union leadership is in trouble.
It just doesnā€™t work that way...

The information isnā€™t well distributed and and people generally wouldnā€™t know to get it if they wanted it.

And there are no mandatory unions...which means most donā€™t bother to pay for it until they get in trouble or have a grievance.

Thatā€™s why it says ā€œrepresentsā€ _,000 workers. There are far fewer paying members.
 
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JenniferS

Time To Be Movinā€™ Along
Premium Member
I dunno. Risks associated with the virus aren't the same everywhere. If I lived in NYC, I would probably wear a mask everywhere I go. Thankfully I don't, so I don't...
I live in a city of approx 100,000 people. Weā€™ve had 102 confirmed cases and 3 deaths.

I HATE wearing the mask, but I do it if I have to go out. Will I wear it for 10 days in WDW this September? No, I wonā€™t ... because Iā€™m not prepared to visit my happy place under those circumstances. Iā€™ll wait.
 

Prince-1

Well-Known Member
Yeah, not really. Mid 70s is comfortable, but whatever if you you want to ignore how the seasons work in the Southern Hemisphere it is still summer in Brazil.

Comfortable yes. My point is that itā€™s still warm in Brazil and they are seeing huge spikes in cases which blows a hole in the ā€œheat kills the virusā€ nonsense.

Also, can you give me a comprehensive tutorial on seasons work? It is quite confusing!
 

brianstl

Well-Known Member
Comfortable yes. My point is that itā€™s still warm in Brazil and they are seeing huge spikes in cases which blows a hole in the ā€œheat kills the virusā€ nonsense.

Also, can you give me a comprehensive tutorial on seasons work? It is quite confusing!
My counter would be that that temperature dropping out of 90ā€™s and upper 80ā€™s and less sun exposure could be directly related to the spike in cases they are now experiencing.
 
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