Universal Puts Disney's Reopening on Defensive

[Thelazer]

I wouldn't give up on Independence Day fireworks of some kind just yet...

Been saying this..... for a while now.

However, Epcot makes the MOST sense for fireworks as you can EASILY spread around the lagoon with social distance.

That said, you could also shoot from the island location around the 7 Sea's, instead of the park location.. and keep people kinda relegated to resort areas to views. Perhaps combine that with ALSO a live stream for folks @ home.

 

[WDW Pro]

That would certainly make sense - question is, if such a thing is planned and word gets out, how would Disney do crowd control to prevent people from congregating at potential "public" viewing sites?

Shut down the roads to normal traffic via security checkpoints.

 

[DisneyOutsider]

Been saying this..... for a while now.

However, Epcot makes the MOST sense for fireworks as you can EASILY spread around the lagoon with social distance.

That said, you could also shoot from the island location around the 7 Sea's, instead of the park location.. and keep people kinda relegated to resort areas to views. Perhaps combine that with ALSO a live stream for folks @ home.

The parks will be completely devoid of guests on July 4.

 

[Doberge]

Are OKW or SSR considered contained enough to host athletes? Yes, each is DVC but how many with studio reservations would seriously complain about an upgrade to a coronado tower or deluxe hotel room? The one bedrooms and up are more tricky but they could make room somewhere, maybe some go to Riviera where's there's plenty of undeclared still-cash rooms.

 

[CastAStone]

Are OKW or SSR considered contained enough to host athletes? Yes, each is DVC but how many with studio reservations would seriously complain about an upgrade to a coronado tower or deluxe hotel room? The one bedrooms and up are more tricky but they could make room somewhere, maybe some go to Riviera where's there's plenty of undeclared still-cash rooms.

Disney doesn’t own the rights to bump people from DVC. Period.

 

[Magic Feather]

Yes. Opening 6/15: Vero and Hilton Head
Opening 6/22: Fort Wilderness, AKL, Kidani, Bay Lake (requiring Contemporary), Poly, GF, Wilderness Lodge, Beach Club (and likely Yacht), BoardWalk, Riviera, OKW, SSR. OP suggests Pop.

Contemporary and Yacht will likely not be opening with BLT and Beach. Check-in for BLT should be moved into it’s smaller lobby/concierge area. In general, I’d be shocked to see Yacht open any time soon.

Also of note, I doubt we see the traditional side of these resorts open pre-July 11, and case depending, even post-July 11. BUT, they will likely allow for cash, non-DVC reservations. There are some DVC resorts, where if they didn’t have a giant backlog of members, they would leave closed.

Also, the only moderate I expect to have a chance at opening is CBR simply because Riviera being open will warrant the Skyliner being open with the parks, and as a result they might as well capitalize on it.

To me, the more interesting question is whether or not they operate the monorails/Skyliner between the resorts to connect their amenities before the parks open. Bare minimum, I expect buses to be connecting the resorts to Springs.

 

[ToTBellHop]

Shut down the roads to normal traffic via security checkpoints.

Yes.

Contemporary and Yacht will likely not be opening with BLT and Beach. Check-in for BLT should be moved into it’s smaller lobby/concierge area. In general, I’d be shocked to see Yacht open any time soon.

Also of note, I doubt we see the traditional side of these resorts open pre-July 11, and case depending, even post-July 11. BUT, they will likely allow for cash, non-DVC reservations. There are some DVC resorts, where if they didn’t have a giant backlog of members, they would leave closed.

Also, the only moderate I expect to have a chance at opening is CBR simply because Riviera being open will warrant the Skyliner being open with the parks, and as a result they might as well capitalize on it.

To me, the more interesting question is whether or not they operate the monorails/Skyliner between the resorts to connect their amenities before the parks open. Bare minimum, I expect buses to be connecting the resorts to Springs.

As for Bay Lake, I was thinking they would need those 4th floor Grand Canyon Concourse offerings. I assume they plan to feed guests? Yacht could of course close. Is there a door they can lock between them?

 

[Magic Feather]

Yes.

As for Bay Lake, I was thinking they would need those 4th floor Grand Canyon Concourse offerings. I assume they plan to feed guests? Yacht could of course close. Is there a door they can lock between them?

I thought the only connection between Yacht and Beach was the pool? Regardless they should be easy to disconnect.

That said, I completely forgot about BLT “leeching” off of Contemporary’s main offerings so as not to have its own. In fact, most DVC properties are like that. That is an interesting thought indeed. Perhaps only opening a facility or two in the main resort (one quick serve, a gift shop and maybe a Table Service)? For instance, BLT would have it’s entire building open, alongside Contempo Cafe and the Gift Shop that has a Grab ‘n Go perhaps? Regardless it is something to think about.

 

[peter11435]

Yes.

As for Bay Lake, I was thinking they would need those 4th floor Grand Canyon Concourse offerings. I assume they plan to feed guests? Yacht could of course close. Is there a door they can lock between them?

There’s no interior guest access connection between Yacht and Beach

 

[Miss Bella]

Contemporary and Yacht will likely not be opening with BLT and Beach. Check-in for BLT should be moved into it’s smaller lobby/concierge area. In general, I’d be shocked to see Yacht open any time soon.

Also of note, I doubt we see the traditional side of these resorts open pre-July 11, and case depending, even post-July 11. BUT, they will likely allow for cash, non-DVC reservations. There are some DVC resorts, where if they didn’t have a giant backlog of members, they would leave closed.

Also, the only moderate I expect to have a chance at opening is CBR simply because Riviera being open will warrant the Skyliner being open with the parks, and as a result they might as well capitalize on it.

To me, the more interesting question is whether or not they operate the monorails/Skyliner between the resorts to connect their amenities before the parks open. Bare minimum, I expect buses to be connecting the resorts to Springs.

Why wouldn't yacht club be open?

 

[ToTBellHop]

There’s no interior guest access connection between Yacht and Beach

Ah, you’re right. Covered breezeway between them, right? Locked doors at the attached resort wouldn’t feel very “deluxe”, but not a huge loss.

 

[peter11435]

Ah, you’re right. Covered breezeway between them, right? Locked doors at the attached resort wouldn’t feel very “deluxe”, but not a huge loss.

Yep. Covered breezeway.

 

[brianstl]

It would seem to me it would be easier and cheaper to open Yacht Club due to shared facilities with Beach Club and keep a different resort closed.

 

[the.dreamfinder]

Minion Van?

 

[peter11435]

It would seem to me it would be easier and cheaper to open Yacht Club due to shared facilities with Beach Club and keep a different resort closed.

Yacht club is the only deluxe resort that does not share services with a DVC property.

 

[brianstl]

Yacht club is the only deluxe resort that does not share services with a DVC property.

It shares services with Beach Club.

 

[peter11435]

It shares services with Beach Club.

Yes and No. Both can operate as self sufficient resorts. The Beach Club can exist and operate with the Yacht club closed and still provide all necessary services.

 

[Magic Feather]

It shares services with Beach Club.

The only services they share are the name and pool. Other than that, they both have a slate of amenities to where they could be self sufficient if they were not conjoined.

That said, my thought on Yacht staying closed was simply an educated guess based on the fact that it is the only Deluxe resort that won’t be forced open by DVC. Plus, it is expected that there will be a large surplus of Deluxe inventory when things reopen. While it could be dealt with by only not opening select buildings/floors at the Deluxe resorts, it could also be achieved by not opening one all together, for which Yacht would be the only option.

 

[peter11435]

The only services they share are the name and pool. Other than that, they both have a slate of amenities to where they could be self sufficient if they were not conjoined.

That said, my thought on Yacht staying closed was simply an educated guess based on the fact that it is the only Deluxe resort that won’t be forced open by DVC. Plus, it is expected that there will be a large surplus of Deluxe inventory when things reopen. While it could be dealt with by only not opening select buildings/floors at the Deluxe resorts, it could also be achieved by not opening one all together, for which Yacht would be the only option.

Exactly this.

 

[brianstl]

Yes and No. Both can operate as self sufficient resorts. The Beach Club can exist and operate with the Yacht club closed and still provide all necessary services.

They can, but both operate most cost effectively and efficiently from a staffing standpoint when operating together. They share pools, restaurants, transportation, spa services, housekeeping, grounds crews, etc.