Universal Puts Disney's Reopening on Defensive

[HauntedMansionFLA]

Disney is not just concerned about legal liability. Kind of hard to run a facility if your staff is all out sick for weeks.

And when a lot of cast members are over 65 years of age. One number demographic of the Covy.

 

[Tony Perkis]

What if they have hay fever or allergies And not Covid19 ?? That would be discrimination. And high risk? Do they check ID’s to see if they are under 65, obese, diabetic, COPD And so on. It’s a tricky situation.

It really isn’t that tricky.

You, as a customer, are going to have to make some concessions. It’s not discrimination; it’s necessary risk management.

A high risk customer should not be visiting Disney World, or any gathering that will have thousands in attendance, during a worldwide pandemic, whether that person is the potential infector or infectee.

Doesn’t it sound excessive? Tough. These aren’t normal times.

 

[Tony Perkis]

And when a lot of cast members are over 65 years of age. One number demographic of the Covy.

Do they have an underlying health concern? Because THAT, combined with age, is what leads to being the most at risk, not just age in a vacuum. Just like how people under 40 aren't immune or invincible against it.

Disney should be holding their staff to a higher standard of work qualification during all of this as well. These are necessary risks if they wish to reopen. Does it suck for certain staff members? Yes. But it may end of saving their lives instead of the worst case scenario.

 

[Animaniac93-98]

You, as a customer, are going to have to make some concessions. It’s not discrimination; it’s necessary risk management.

Exactly. Not every inconvenience is a form of discrimination.

 

[Tomi-Rocket]

Quite interesting. It’s truly just a game of wait and see now.

 

[Tony Perkis]

Why not? The Saul Goodman lawyer’s out there are waiting to pounce.

I don't think Disney is worried too much about the "criminal's lawyers" of the world.

 

[Tony Perkis]

Exactly. Not every inconvenience is a form of discrimination.

It isn't like having a cough during a global pandemic is even remotely close to "we don't like your kind".

 

[Animaniac93-98]

It isn't like having a cough during a global pandemic is even remotely close to "we don't like your kind".

"Here in Dixie World, we don't take kindly to the way you Yankees cough around here!"

 

[KeithVH]

I don’t mind people visiting the resorts, but I do mind when their “visit” interferes with my vacation. People using the poly pool, renting all the boats, tying up the dining areas...thank God the club building requires magic bands for entry.

Yeah, like that works so well when Grandma and Grandpa bring in the other ten family members NOT staying/paying at the club level so they can shovel their faces full of food.

Sorry, off-topic hot button . . .

 

[Tony Perkis]

Wow, the Universal hate is in this thread is off the charts, even for this board.

Other than a few comments here and there, I think it's been rather cordial. And this is coming from someone who genuinely likes Universal more that WDW.

Most seem to acknowledge the inherent differences between the two resorts that make their reopening strategies unique.

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Oh, I had assumed they activated and used them last November and were hoping to use them in June and then November again this year before the 1 year point. If the AP’s have not yet been activated for the first time then there should be no problem. You can essentially sit on them for years before activating for the first time and starting the 1 year clock.

Yeah...that’s how that plan would go...

 

[Sirwalterraleigh]

Yeah, like that works so well when Grandma and Grandpa bring in the other ten family members NOT staying/paying at the club level so they can shovel their faces full of food.

Sorry, off-topic hot button . . .

...I think I see the problem

 

[WondersOfLife]

Wow, the Universal hate is in this thread is off the charts, even for this board.

What?

 

[MisterPenguin]

Wow, the Universal hate is in this thread is off the charts, even for this board.

You mean this thread which is basically lauding Universal for moving so fast is a hatefest for Universal?

Did I just slide into a different reality?

 

[doctornick]

If someone is coughing or sneezing, they shouldn’t be at Disney World in the first place, and those high-risk individuals should be turned away at whatever entry checkpoint is established. This is why a temperature and symptoms check system will definitely be installed.

A lot of people can be coughing or sneezing due to something totally benign and non contagious like due to allergies. Personally, I'm one of those people who sneezes in bright sunlight (it's called a photic sneeze reflex) - obviously that's something that happens in a place like Florida, so does that mean I shouldn't go to WDW even though I have no sign of infection?

 

[disney4life2008]

Let's be real. Wasn't world showcase already set up for flower and garden? I suspect they are trying to keep the food set up because what else is there to do in epcot? It has zero draw if you remove the food and drunks. Epcot is garbage.

Hollywood studios is a no brainer. Star War nerds will line up days in advance for rise.

Animal kingdom is safe. The park is big enough to spread out and even with limited attractions can still be a draw.

Magic Kingdom, cap at 10,000 only for Florida residents, resort guests, and annual pass. Everyone else can wait.

 

[MisterPenguin]

Didn’t a MIT researcher say it can travel up to 27 feet? So the six feet rule gives people a false sense of security. Disney should follow the 27 foot rule to keep guest safe.

Yes, an uncovered sneeze can project droplets that far.

That's why no sneeze should be uncovered. Whether wearing a mask or not, sneeze into your elbow or a disposable tissue.

The masks are to to stop people who are unknowing infected (pre- or a- symptomatic) from spreading COVID through micro droplets that come from talking and breathing. It's not a sneezeguard.

 

[HauntedMansionFLA]

Do they have an underlying health concern? Because THAT, combined with age, is what leads to being the most at risk, not just age in a vacuum. Just like how people under 40 aren't immune or invincible against it.

Disney should be holding their staff to a higher standard of work qualification during all of this as well. These are necessary risks if they wish to reopen. Does it suck for certain staff members? Yes. But it may end of saving their life instead of the worst case scenario.

But if they can’t work, how can the pay their rent, food, have some sort of way of life. I would think the CM will roll the dice and work instead of starving to death or have no where to live.

 

[doctornick]

This is going to sound mean, but sorry, tough. You wouldn't qualify entry into any theme park resort. It simply isn't worth the risk you potentially could provide.

But there's no risk. The sneezing has nothing to do with infection.

 

[lazyboy97o]

A lot of people can be coughing or sneezing due to something totally benign and non contagious due to allergies. Personally, I'm one of those people who sneezes in bright sunlight - obviously that's something that happens in a place like Florida, so does that mean I shouldn't go to WDW even though I have no sign of infection?

You do have a sign of infection. Like a lot of things in medicine, your sign can be the result of a number of different causes and people are horrible at self diagnosis.