asianway
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I'm pretty sure Epcot has been running the same schedule since 10/1/99.
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spacemt354
Chili's
If they were open later than that, I would take a guess and say it was before 2005. I think around that time was when Extra Magic Hours began for all parks, so that might be when they stopped being open past 9/10 on a regular basis.
bubbles1812
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Yeah, I would tend to agree with you. The way they do it almost forces you to be a morning person if you want to get fastpass, short wait, heck, even in regards to the monorail/transportation system, and definitely the hours too. When I'm at WDW is one of the few times I'm actually willing to be a morning person...
Of course, we still are night owls while there too, LOL. So we end up having very long days but it's totally worth it.Thanks to edwardtc for clearing up the maintnace fee thing.
But as a fan I despise the whole system. It's cheapened Bob's beloved 'brand'.
The shareholder in me loves it because Disney raised their dividend last year and I've done well on my investment...
But as a fan I despise the whole system. It's cheapened Bob's beloved 'brand'.
Longhairbear
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We are just back from DLR and a few observations. Carthay Circle Theatre restaurant at DCA, and Trader Sam's poolside at DLH both had the Disney Parks cocktail napkins.
Every single cash register CM, cash tending waiter/waitress had knowledge of the various AP, and DVC member discount cards. That's new from our experience last Feb. Before we encountered perplexed CMs over the various discounts. This trip, the CMs asked us if we had AP, or DVC cards at every location. In FLA all CMs seemed to know of DVC.
Every single cash register CM, cash tending waiter/waitress had knowledge of the various AP, and DVC member discount cards. That's new from our experience last Feb. Before we encountered perplexed CMs over the various discounts. This trip, the CMs asked us if we had AP, or DVC cards at every location. In FLA all CMs seemed to know of DVC.
COProgressFan
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They spend well over a BILLION dollars to create a layered and detailed immersive environment where people are brought to another place and time...then use the same generic soulless corporate nomenclature and logo on the napkins. Geniuses at work.
Even if they said DCA, or Disneyland it would be better than getting the same cocktail napkin as you would get at the All Star Sports pool bar in Florida...
I just don't just see how corporate branding and standardization of what are supposed to be unique experiences makes any sense at all.
scpergj
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Don't know what they paid for it...but it's pretty dang cool!
TP2000
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They must have ran out this week, because I had cocktails twice at Carthay Circle Theater on two different days in late June and they had specific cocktail napkins.
Those are at the downstairs lounge. Upstairs in the dining room it was nothing but white linen napkins of several different sizes and purposes on the tables.
As for Trader Sam's napkins... After an Uh-Oa or two I never seem to remember what happened there exactly on any of my visits.
No, wait, through the rum fog I seem to remember that Trader Sams' just introduced Trader Sam's logo tiki barware this summer, instead of the more generic tiki mugs and glasses they had been using in 2011.
I also know from recent firsthand experience that the Napa Rose Cocktail Lounge also has specific Napa Rose cocktail napkins. I also go on the rides at Disneyland, I just don't go to the bars, I promise!
If the Carthay Circle Theater was using generic napkins on your visit this past weekend Longhairbear, it probably speaks more to the wild success of the DCA 2.0 Extreme Makeover and is just another example of the problems they have keeping all the unique new stuff in stock; Cone Cups from Cozy Cone Motel, Luigi's Hats, Cars Land CD's, etc., etc.
I guess now we can add Carthay Circle Theater cocktail napkins to the list, and it wouldn't surprise me to see people snagging extras for their scrapbooks. The One Disney charmless corporate monoblock experience is really one of the dumbest things Disney execs have done since... well, since DCA 1.0 in 2001.
Longhairbear
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You are correct, once I saw your pix, we did get those cocktail napkins at Carthay Circle. At Trader Sam's we got the generic Disney Parks napkins. We also bought one of each of the mugs. Luigi's hats were in stock, and we also bought the Carsland CD.They must have ran out this week, because I had cocktails twice at Carthay Circle Theater on two different days in late June and they had specific cocktail napkins.
Those are at the downstairs lounge. Upstairs in the dining room it was nothing but white linen napkins of several different sizes and purposes on the tables.
As for Trader Sam's napkins... After an Uh-Oa or two I never seem to remember what happened there exactly on any of my visits.
I also know from recent firsthand experience that the Napa Rose Cocktail Lounge also has specific Napa Rose cocktail napkins. I also go on the rides at Disneyland, I just don't go to the bars, I promise!
If the Carthay Circle Theater was using generic napkins on your visit this past weekend Longhairbear, it probably speaks more to the wild success of the DCA 2.0 Extreme Makeover and is just another example of the problems they have keeping all the unique new stuff in stock; Cone Cups from Cozy Cone Motel, Luigi's Hats, Cars Land CD's, etc., etc.
I guess now we can add Carthay Circle Theater cocktail napkins to the list, and it wouldn't surprise me to see people snagging extras for their scrapbooks. The One Disney charmless corporate monoblock experience is really one of the dumbest things Disney execs have done since... well, since DCA 1.0 in 2001.
Californian Elitist
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LMAO!!!!
spacemt354
Chili's
I was talking to one of my non-Disney friends about the napkin situation. He said that just the fact that you are talking about the quality of napkins is insane haha! I know there is a method to the madness and I hope the napkins return, but I guess he does have a bit of a point lol
Pumbas Nakasak
Heading for the great escape.
Surely talking about short arses in furry suits and arguing about the best type of bearing grease for a boggy wheel is equally insane? Its a theme park.
The Empress Lilly
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We're Disney fans. So we discuss Mickey Mouse napkins.
And if you're a baseball fan you discuss batting stats. And if you're a tech geek you discuss the differences between versions 1.41 and 1.43. Etc.
For one, it is what we enjoy. We're fans, we enjoy staring at Mickey while eating a burger. That's why we visit WDW and not Cancun.
And secondly, it is not trivial. It is not insane. Or being petty about the small stuff. The outsider may think so. But the athletics fan understands that the difference between gold and nobody is 9.83 or 9.93 seconds. The music fan understands that the difference between an authentic performance of Haendel and kitch is a barely audible difference between a period instrument and a modern one, played by a musician with just a tiny bit better sense of vibrato.
To the layman these things may sound petty, even . But fans understand that the devil is in the details. It is a careful consideration of a thousand details that makes the difference between Disney and Six Flags, and not the world's largest coaster.
And if you're a baseball fan you discuss batting stats. And if you're a tech geek you discuss the differences between versions 1.41 and 1.43. Etc.
For one, it is what we enjoy. We're fans, we enjoy staring at Mickey while eating a burger. That's why we visit WDW and not Cancun.
And secondly, it is not trivial. It is not insane. Or being petty about the small stuff. The outsider may think so. But the athletics fan understands that the difference between gold and nobody is 9.83 or 9.93 seconds. The music fan understands that the difference between an authentic performance of Haendel and kitch is a barely audible difference between a period instrument and a modern one, played by a musician with just a tiny bit better sense of vibrato.
To the layman these things may sound petty, even . But fans understand that the devil is in the details. It is a careful consideration of a thousand details that makes the difference between Disney and Six Flags, and not the world's largest coaster.
John
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So eloquently put. The great napkin debate of 2012 goes on. Asking a non-Disney fan about such things is like asking a non-nascar fan what they think about restricter plate racing......yea..who really cares? Only somebaody that takes the time to know the difference, and who actually cares.
TP2000
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The Great Napkin Debate of '12... I love it!
So we've concluded that there are at least three different locations at Disneyland where they have specific cocktail napkins; Carthay Circle Theater, Napa Rose, and Club 33. (with an honorable mention for Trader Sam's for having their own logo barware). How many locations in WDW parks or hotels have their own logo cocktail napkins? Or are they all Disney Parks and/or blank cocktail napkins throughout WDW property?
Using the Disneyland locations as a guideline, I would think Victoria & Albert's would have their own napkins. And maybe the Brown Derby, or some of the World Showcase restaurants?
spacemt354
Chili's
I already know why we discuss it. I said I know there is a method to the madness. I was only making a joke based on what someone with a non Disney background had said regarding the same topic that us Disney fans are discussing. No need to get all defensive. I already know why we look for and should look for the details in everything Disney.
COProgressFan
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I can say during my one (and only...but I would like to go back some day) visit to V&A's 2 years ago, there was no "Disney Parks" crap anywhere to be found, and they have kept the place essentially a Disney-free zone (if that's possible in WDW). I believe they didn't even use the Disney Parks visa credit card folders for payment either (thought I could be wrong on this). So that's a good thing. For those who have never gone, it truly remains a wonderful experience.
On the other end of the spectrum, while places like The Plaza restaurant at the MK used to have those nice thick folded, paper napkins with the Plaza logo on them...now they just say Disney Parks. Yuck.