TWDC Q2 Earnings & Conference Call

Mouse Trap

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No, Jason Garcia just tweeted that it's weighing down profits…

"Not effecting in any way" is a bit of a misstatement. Any new item will effect the company. It isn't effecting the company in some terribly, tremendous way people make it out to be.

You don't make money without spending money.
 

ParentsOf4

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No, Jason Garcia just tweeted that it's weighing down profits…
Quoting from the release:

"Higher operating income was due to growth at our domestic parks and resorts driven by increased guest spending at Walt Disney World Resort, higher attendance at Disneyland Resort and increased occupied room nights at both resorts. Higher guest spending was due to higher average ticket prices and food, beverage and merchandise spending. These increases were partially offset by higher costs which were driven by spending on MyMagic+ and labor and other cost inflation, partially offset by lower pension and postretirement medical costs."

Yes, MyMagic+ was an anchor on earnings.

Gross margin for the quarter was 12.8%.

Under Eisner, who usually ran a P&R margin in the 20's, 12.8% would have been a disaster.

Under Iger, it's going to be spun as a great quarter.

Don't forget that we've had two rounds of ticket price increases since last year's Q2, inflating earnings.

Thank you, higher WDW prices! :banghead:
 
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PhotoDave219

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Quoting from the release:

"Higher operating income was due to growth at our domestic parks and resorts driven by increased guest spending at Walt Disney World Resort, higher attendance at Disneyland Resort and increased occupied room nights at both resorts. Higher guest spending was due to higher average ticket prices and food, beverage and merchandise spending. These increases were partially offset by higher costs which were driven by spending on MyMagic+ and labor and other cost inflation, partially offset by lower pension and postretirement medical costs."

Yes, MyMagic+ was an anchor on earnings.

Gross margin for the quarter was 12.8%.

Under Eisner, who usually ran a P&R margin in the 20's, 12.8% would have been a disaster.

Under Iger, it's going to be spun as a great quarter.

Don't forget that we've had two rounds of ticket price increases since last year's Q2, inflating earnings.

Thank you, higher WDW prices! :banghead:

Third-quarter should be higher because of easter shift.

Although I would love to see the financials of the third-quarter Easter shift 2014 versus the last time Easter fell in the third quarter.
 

MichWolv

Born Modest. Wore Off.
Premium Member
Costs of MM+ are not effecting the company in any way. We were just proven that 4 minutes ago when earnings blew the expectations away. Iger can spin it any way he wants, he's brining in the wealth. Not much of a convo there.
Forgive the bluntness, but that's a silly statement. We know they are spending money, so the costs are of course affecting (with an "a") the company. That doesn't mean the thing is over budget, getting people fired, or causing other projects to be delayed, but of course they are affecting the company.

EDIT: And you already noticed that and clarified. Never mind.
 

MichWolv

Born Modest. Wore Off.
Premium Member
Quoting from the release:

"Higher operating income was due to growth at our domestic parks and resorts driven by increased guest spending at Walt Disney World Resort, higher attendance at Disneyland Resort and increased occupied room nights at both resorts. Higher guest spending was due to higher average ticket prices and food, beverage and merchandise spending. These increases were partially offset by higher costs which were driven by spending on MyMagic+ and labor and other cost inflation, partially offset by lower pension and postretirement medical costs."

Yes, MyMagic+ was an anchor on earnings.

Gross margin for the quarter was 12.8%.

Under Eisner, who usually ran a P&R margin in the 20's, 12.8% would have been a disaster.

Under Iger, it's going to be spun as a great quarter.

Don't forget that we've had two rounds of ticket price increases since last year's Q2, inflating earnings.

Thank you, higher WDW prices! :banghead:

Costs don't mean "anchor" If they did, we would say that employee salaries and a benefits are an "anchor" as they are greater than MM+ spending. The only thing the mention of MM+ spending means is that it was a significant number and a significant change from the comparative quarter/period. So, big number, but no indication (not that I'd expect there to be) about whether that number was bigger than expected, whether there are overruns, etc.

Operating margin was 12.8%, not gross margin. Big difference in what expenses are included.

Operating margin often varies quarter to quarter. It was around 15% in fiscal 2013 and 2012, and is around 15% for the first 6 months of 2014.

As fans of the parks, shouldn't we be happy that profitability of the parks is lower now than it was 10 years ago? That means Disney is keeping less of our money, and is instead spending it.
 

danv3

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Higher attendance noted at Disneyland, but only higher prices noted at WDW, suggesting that attendance is flat or even down at WDW.

"Pleased with changes to guest behavior" re MM+

Mentioned again that FP+ allows them to accommodate more guests in the parks than before at peak periods.
 

seascape

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Hotel occupancy at 86% shows they need more rooms not less. they are taking rooms from the poly for the DVC, and right now they have no more hotels being built that I am aware of. Given that and the rumors of a Ft. Wilderness DVC it is possible that it will include a hotel portion. They need more deluxe rooms not less.
 

danv3

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Jay says that having people plan in advance allows better distribution of guests, which allows more people into the parks. The numbers are "in the thousands" of extra guests.

They are "very very pleased" with all aspects of MM+
 

ABQ

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Jay says that having people plan in advance allows better distribution of guests, which allows more people into the parks. The numbers are "in the thousands" of extra guests.

They are "very very pleased" with all aspects of MM+
Is it that the more people which COULD be allowed into the parks is POTENTIALLY in the thousands, or they have already allowed thousands more in due to the distribution of guests? If the latter, then why didn't they report an increase in attendance at WDW like they did at Disneyland?
 

danv3

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Is it that the more people which COULD be allowed into the parks is POTENTIALLY in the thousands, or they have already allowed thousands more in due to the distribution of guests? If the latter, then why didn't they report an increase in attendance at WDW like they did at Disneyland?

I understood it to be both. They have already gotten more people through the gates on some days in the past, and they think there is further capability of getting more guests in the gate as guest adoption of MM+ increases.

Presumably this only means MK, as the other parks essentially never reach capacity.
 

danv3

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Company is thrilled with results of investment of capital into DCA expansion. Very bullish on those returns. Won't share specific figures.

Feels similar with FLE. They don't take on expansion without expectation of growth. Feel very strong about growth of volume there, which allowed them to increase prices early taking into account new investments.
 

TP2000

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Is it that the more people which COULD be allowed into the parks is POTENTIALLY in the thousands, or they have already allowed thousands more in due to the distribution of guests? If the latter, then why didn't they report an increase in attendance at WDW like they did at Disneyland?

Good catch. I can't figure that out either.

Disneyland Resort attendance is up (Duh), and they are accommodating "thousands" more per day at WDW parks per Jay Rasulo, but no mention of WDW attendance stats at all. There's part of this information pie that is missing for some reason.
 

ParentsOf4

Well-Known Member
As fans of the parks, shouldn't we be happy that profitability of the parks is lower now than it was 10 years ago? That means Disney is keeping less of our money, and is instead spending it.
What lower margins mean is that P&R is considerably less effective at making money than it once was, which has only resulted in this:

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Ticket prices closely followed Median Household Income during the years when gross margins were the greatest.

P&R has forgotten how to make money without raising prices.

P&R is lead by a group of effective administrators with no vision, whose idea of organic growth is higher ticket, food, beverage, and merchandise prices.
 

Disneyhead'71

Well-Known Member
Jay says that having people plan in advance allows better distribution of guests, which allows more people into the parks. The numbers are "in the thousands" of extra guests.

They are "very very pleased" with all aspects of MM+
How many times are they having to close the gate for capacity issues?
 

the.dreamfinder

Well-Known Member
Hotel occupancy at 86% shows they need more rooms not less. they are taking rooms from the poly for the DVC, and right now they have no more hotels being built that I am aware of. Given that and the rumors of a Ft. Wilderness DVC it is possible that it will include a hotel portion. They need more deluxe rooms not less.
Nope, they have taken a lot of rooms out of service for "refurbishment" to prop that number up. DVC has been canabalizing Deluxe sales for years on top of the high prices disney charges for its resorts, on all levels.
 

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