News Tron coaster coming to the Magic Kingdom

James Alucobond

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The fans say Tommorowland is severely outdated, but then they can't touch a classic like Space Mountain. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
I mean, why would you spend money redoing a perfectly lovely facade when you have two unthemed show buildings blighting your parks? Just use the money and material to make those not look like garbage instead.
 

MagicHappens1971

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Some pictures from the PeopleMover today.
 

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sedati

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The lighting etc. is still going to have a problem -- one that underlines how poorly this was placed. It's really only going to be visible from a handful of places. You won't even be able to see it from half of Tomorrowland.
Same is true for Space Mountain- an incredibly poorly positioned icon.
 

UNCgolf

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Same is true for Space Mountain- an incredibly poorly positioned icon.

That's arguably true, but Space Mountain also doesn't have a bunch of lighting effects etc. intended to attract attention and I don't believe it was ever intended to be Tomorrowland's centerpiece.

TRON, on the other hand, was designed as the focal centerpiece in Shanghai, which is why cloning it and then just sticking it in a corner feels like such a bizarre decision.
 

sedati

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That's arguably true, but Space Mountain also doesn't have a bunch of lighting effects etc. intended to attract attention and I don't believe it was ever intended to be Tomorrowland's centerpiece.

TRON, on the other hand, was designed as the focal centerpiece in Shanghai, which is why cloning it and then just sticking it in a corner feels like such a bizarre decision.
Tokyo's is positioned as I would have expected Florida's. But they decided instead to hide it around the bend... behind the People Mover... the Skyway... and its own entrance structure:
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UNCgolf

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Tokyo's is positioned as I would have expected Florida's. But they decided instead to hide it around the bend... behind the People Mover... the Skyway... and its own entrance structure:
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Isn't that likely because Space Mountain was added to the Magic Kingdom's Tomorrowland several years after opening but Tokyo was able to incorporate it as part of the land's original design?

That's true of TRON as well, of course, but I wish they'd redesigned the canopy/facade to make more sense in its new location. But I suppose that would have defeated the purpose of cloning it.
 

sedati

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Isn't that likely because Space Mountain was added to the Magic Kingdom's Tomorrowland several years after opening but Tokyo was able to incorporate it as part of the land's original design?

That's true of TRON as well, of course, but I wish they'd redesigned the canopy/facade to make more sense in its new location. But I suppose that would have defeated the purpose of cloning it.
They had dreamed it, but I guess they really couldn't do it:

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Stills taken from Martin's amazing tribute:
 

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networkpro

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In the Parks
Yes
The designs are just decision points in time. Since they mostly share a common water power distribution infrastructure your options are more limited.
 

sedati

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I always love the Disney defense tactic of responding to criticism of contemporary Disney decision making by contending that WDW has always been badly designed and full of stupid decisions. REAL Disney fans know the parks always stunk.
It’s more a realization that practically always played a part. That Blue Sky ideas on paper never translate to the real world. The parks didn’t stink then just as every generation has fond memories of their era even if the olds tried to tell them of the ruin and disarray.
 

Casper Gutman

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It’s more a realization that practically always played a part. That Blue Sky ideas on paper never translate to the real world. The parks didn’t stink then just as every generation has fond memories of their era even if the olds tried to tell them of the ruin and disarray.
This is nonsense. In the early 90s you didn't have a huge contingent of fans lamenting how much better the resort was in the mid-70s. And of course practicality always played a part in park design, but we have never seen anything as lazy and absurd as the placement of Tron, a ride whose one worthwhile feature, a dramatic canopy that only impresses from a limited number of directions because it barely obscures the unadorned warehouse actually housing the ride, is completely neutralized because guests are forced to approach from an odd, sideways angle and the preferable frontal views are completely blocked by a huge, massively outdated Autopia ride.
 

Disgruntled Walt

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In the Parks
No
Could the placement of Tron lead to the eventual removal of the Speedway?
I was in WDW during the D23 in 2017 when they announced TRON coming, and the cast members in Merchant of Venus told me that the Speedway was going to close. That ended up not happening, but I definitely think it could still happen.
 

UNCgolf

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I was in WDW during the D23 in 2017 when they announced TRON coming, and the cast members in Merchant of Venus told me that the Speedway was going to close. That ended up not happening, but I definitely think it could still happen.

Even if they did remove the Speedway, I can't imagine they'd just leave it as empty space. They'd build another attraction (or shops/restaurants) in that footprint, which would actually block views of TRON even more.
 

celluloid

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The Mexico Pavilion Pyramid was scaffolding six months before EPCOT had opening day and was a building to house multiple venues including a dark boat ride inside that is not only well hidden but themed and appeasing where it is not. All while an entire theme park was heavy under work.

Today's Decisions are the suck in comparison.
 

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