News Tron coaster coming to the Magic Kingdom

[ToTBellHop]

Why would I need to spend that at WDW when I could just go to any train yard for the same experience? After all, I ARE THE MAGIC!!!

But would that train have a view of an unthemed bridge? I think not.

 

[larryz]

Wait... what?

Can't have two coasters running side-by-side. That would make MK too much like one of the itinerant carnivals Walt hated so much.

 

[G00fyDad]

But would that train have a view of an unthemed bridge? I think not.

We already have a half themed Expedition Everest.

 

[matt9112]

Lol

You do know the difference between building thru a pandemic and deciding to put a project on hold? Because, remember, Universal put a whole new theme park on pause. So, where is the shade for them for doing that?

Ones an additional theme park that isn't neccessary. (Universal doesn't have the same capacity problems) the other is a single ride system at the most visited theme park on earth.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

Don't forget the new dole whip flavors at typhoon lagoon

“Churros are back!” - Josh D.

 

[Bluewaves]

It’s 2022 and still not done, so much for the clones are easy to build narrative, just cheap to design apparently

 

[MisterPenguin]

It’s 2022 and still not done, so much for the clones are easy to build narrative, just cheap to design apparently

Not too cheap. It has to be redesigned for imperial units and different building codes, not to mention having a locomotive ride thru it. At least they have practical knowledge, tho, that the canopy doesn't collapse nor the vehicles jump off the track.

They do know guests like it. And the development cost might be shared among the different park budgets.

 

[EricsBiscuit]

From yesterday with some bonus pics:

 

[celluloid]

you get NOTHING! Good Day Sir and/or Ma'am!

Kind of like being a Magic Kingdom Fan expecting a new attraction ready at a reasonable time or expecting the railroad for the last few years.

 

[JMcMahonEsq]

It’s 2022 and still not done, so much for the clones are easy to build narrative, just cheap to design apparently

Yes because they definitely should have predicted a 2 year global pandemic into their construction schedule.

While it certainly isn’t the complete reason for the delay, it is absolutely a major contributor to it. The other part is that just because the ride “could” be build and opened faster, doesn’t mean it’s the best idea to rush it open asap. As soon as Covid hit and you knew the ride was going to be delayed, you had to start looking into when was the best time to open Tron. It made no sense to rush construction to get it open during a time when you were limiting attendance. Nor did it make much sense to rush it for the holiday season or busy spring break seasons of late 21 into 22. You want to open the ride when it is going to give you a pop either in attendance or press. You are already going to be opening guardians in summer of 22, so it makes no sense to have to major ride openings at the same time. The best case scenario is you get Tron at the end of 22, prior to holidays, or you open it near the end of the 50th anniversary to keep momentum there after it has been going on for more than a year.

 

[Casper Gutman]

Yes because they definitely should have predicted a 2 year global pandemic into their construction schedule.

While it certainly isn’t the complete reason for the delay, it is absolutely a major contributor to it. The other part is that just because the ride “could” be build and opened faster, doesn’t mean it’s the best idea to rush it open asap. As soon as Covid hit and you knew the ride was going to be delayed, you had to start looking into when was the best time to open Tron. It made no sense to rush construction to get it open during a time when you were limiting attendance. Nor did it make much sense to rush it for the holiday season or busy spring break seasons of late 21 into 22. You want to open the ride when it is going to give you a pop either in attendance or press. You are already going to be opening guardians in summer of 22, so it makes no sense to have to major ride openings at the same time. The best case scenario is you get Tron at the end of 22, prior to holidays, or you open it near the end of the 50th anniversary to keep momentum there after it has been going on for more than a year.

Tron should have been open or, at the least, almost open before the pandemic began. The fact that WDW delayed construction so long that it ran into a global crisis is a weak excuse.

Tron is not simply - or even primarily - meant to provide a pop in attendance. It’s a desperate bid to add capacity that is woefully needed right away.

If you need a pop in attendance you build and open a new ride. You don’t drag construction of a carbon-copy of a short screen-based indoor coaster into its fifth year.

 

[ToTBellHop]

Yes because they definitely should have predicted a 2 year global pandemic into their construction schedule.

While it certainly isn’t the complete reason for the delay, it is absolutely a major contributor to it. The other part is that just because the ride “could” be build and opened faster, doesn’t mean it’s the best idea to rush it open asap. As soon as Covid hit and you knew the ride was going to be delayed, you had to start looking into when was the best time to open Tron. It made no sense to rush construction to get it open during a time when you were limiting attendance. Nor did it make much sense to rush it for the holiday season or busy spring break seasons of late 21 into 22. You want to open the ride when it is going to give you a pop either in attendance or press. You are already going to be opening guardians in summer of 22, so it makes no sense to have to major ride openings at the same time. The best case scenario is you get Tron at the end of 22, prior to holidays, or you open it near the end of the 50th anniversary to keep momentum there after it has been going on for more than a year.

Have you heard that WDW actually only closed 4 months and was a significant crutch for the company?

 

[Animaniac93-98]

Tron is not simply - or even primarily - meant to provide a pop in attendance. It’s a desperate bid to add capacity that is woefully needed right away.

And unfortunately, after this summer, TRON will be the only new ride coming to any WDW park in the near future.

 

[JMcMahonEsq]

Tron should have been open or, at the least, almost open before the pandemic began. The fact that WDW delayed construction so long that it ran into a global crisis is a weak excuse.

Tron is not simply - or even primarily - meant to provide a pop in attendance. It’s a desperate bid to add capacity that is woefully needed right away.

If you need a pop in attendance you build and open a new ride. You don’t drag construction of a carbon-copy of a short screen-based indoor coaster into its fifth year.

Other than your posterior where do you get the idea that the ride should have been don prior to pandemic?

None of the CPM’s even the initial base lines had substantial or final completion even close to Q1 2020

The idea that Tron is a capacity fix as opposed to a major marketing/attendance driver is equally laughable. Tron as designed and implemented will have some of the most strict height restrictions at the park. It will also be restrictive as far as older people and riders who are not coaster fans. That is not a recipe for people eater type ride. Tron has been hyped as a major new attraction, a thrill type ride try to secure more thrill seeking crows. As such you absolutely want to control when the ride opens.

It is foolish to not think Disney would want to plan when the ride opens, to fit into an overall marketing strategy. And If it is not beneficial to open the ride now, or during Covid, there was no reason to schedule construction to get it open this fast.

 

[Casper Gutman]

Other than your posterior where do you get the idea that the ride should have been don prior to pandemic?

None of the CPM’s even the initial base lines had substantial or final completion even close to Q1 2020

The idea that Tron is a capacity fix as opposed to a major marketing/attendance driver is equally laughable. Tron as designed and implemented will have some of the most strict height restrictions at the park. It will also be restrictive as far as older people and riders who are not coaster fans. That is not a recipe for people eater type ride. Tron has been hyped as a major new attraction, a thrill type ride try to secure more thrill seeking crows. As such you absolutely want to control when the ride opens.

It is foolish to not think Disney would want to plan when the ride opens, to fit into an overall marketing strategy. And If it is not beneficial to open the ride now, or during Covid, there was no reason to schedule construction to get it open this fast.

Tron was announced in July 2017 - two and a half years before the pandemic. It was intended to open before the 50th.

Tron is a stupid response to capacity issues but it is one, nevertheless. Despite all the drawbacks you listed, it had one big advantage - it was already designed. The fact that it is hailed as a major addition means nothing regarding the motives behind its installation - of course any addition will be hyped.

Ride additions should not be so rare that they are delayed two or three years to await the perfect moment to open - there should be a steady stream to leverage in PR. Tron was supposed to be in the wave of attractions that opened BEFORE the attractions that were intended for the 50th. The need to hold off opening to maximize PR benefit is the product of WDWs absurd refusal to build at anything like an adequate pace.

 

[No Name]

It’s 2022 and still not done, so much for the clones are easy to build narrative, just cheap to design apparently

It’s not like they’re moving at full speed trying to get this open as soon as possible. They could’ve had it done much sooner but they’re choosing to stretch it out. Also I’m not sure that was ever the narrative.

 

[No Name]

Tron is not simply - or even primarily - meant to provide a pop in attendance. It’s a desperate bid to add capacity that is woefully needed right away.

Wow that’s absolutely not true, they absolutely want this to bring in more people.

 

[Casper Gutman]

Wow that’s absolutely not true, they absolutely want this to bring in more people.

Reread what I said - attracting crowds isn’t it’s only or even it’s main motive. That acknowledges it is always a motive.

 

[yensidtlaw1969]

At some point they’re going to close Splash Mountain for reworking into Frog Mountain and that’ll likely impact the Walt Disney World Railroad.

On one hand, I wouldn't be surprised if they did their best to work around the railroad, cutting anything from the redesign that would require downtime for the Train and maybe repaint the area around it on the third shift.

On another hand, also I wouldn't be surprised if they saw it as another opportunity to close the Railroad again for a bit and save a dollar from it.

 

[celluloid]

On one hand, I wouldn't be surprised if they did their best to work around the railroad, cutting anything from the redesign that would require downtime for the Train and maybe repaint the area around it on the third shift.

On another hand, also I wouldn't be surprised if they saw it as another opportunity to close the Railroad again for a bit and save a dollar from it.

Ring-a-ding. Like the parking Trams being one for so long. Staffing and operating dollars.