News Tron coaster coming to the Magic Kingdom

[Hayley In Wonderland]

It's like people would say Rockin Rollercoaster is totally different from The Mummy.

It's EXTREMELY different to The Mummy. The only similarities they share is being a dark coaster. That is literally it. The Mummy is a fairly flat track, and no where near as fast as Rock 'N' Roller. It also stops several times, and has a totally different ride experience.

Rock 'N' Roller is a high speed coaster that literally does not stop once, goes upside down a few times and only really has a light show and a couple of signs to enhance your experience.

They are both completely different ride experiences. I would never say they even have similarities.

 

[Hayley In Wonderland]

For the few who say TRON should have gone to Epcot's FW and GotG:IU gone to TL; I say that Space Mountain should go to FW instead.

I believe TRON would be better suited in FW. It fits in with the aesthetic & the theme. Not disputing that Space Mountain would not also fit well in FW, but since it is already a long standing attraction in TL, TRON should go to FW. It will also give FW 2 big rides, which the park is lacking.

 

[EricsBiscuit]

I believe TRON would be better suited in FW. It fits in with the aesthetic & the theme. Not disputing that Space Mountain would not also fit well in FW, but since it is already a long standing attraction in TL, TRON should go to FW. It will also give FW 2 big rides, which the park is lacking.

But in Disney's eyes it wouldn't be as big a draw.

 

[GlacierGlacier]

I believe TRON would be better suited in FW. It fits in with the aesthetic & the theme. Not disputing that Space Mountain would not also fit well in FW, but since it is already a long standing attraction in TL, TRON should go to FW. It will also give FW 2 big rides, which the park is lacking.

The only way I feel it'd be acceptable in FW is if they gave it a pre-show about how computers work. "Circuits like freeways" and all that, then you're brought into this world you thought you'd never see. Of course, this is a straight clone (minus localization and different architectural and engineering standards), so I don't think it'd fit in FW. Rides in FW should be edutainment (soarin and Nemo fail in this aspect), rides in Tomorrowland should be more free to do raw rides with great storytelling and world-building.

 

[rle4lunch]

The only way I feel it'd be acceptable in FW is if they gave it a pre-show about how computers work. "Circuits like freeways" and all that, then you're brought into this world you thought you'd never see. Of course, this is a straight clone (minus localization and different architectural and engineering standards), so I don't think it'd fit in FW. Rides in FW should be edutainment (soarin and Nemo fail in this aspect), rides in Tomorrowland should be more free to do raw rides with great storytelling and world-building.

I dunno. Tron fits so much better with Sci-Fi and TL rather than Sci-Fact (future real science possibilities) in FW. Cuz, let's be real here. Ain't no way some person gets sucked into a video game and comes back out.

GotG isn't a good fit in FW either, no matter how they try to spin it. Star Trek would be a better representative of FW theming.

 

[Hayley In Wonderland]

The only way I feel it'd be acceptable in FW is if they gave it a pre-show about how computers work. "Circuits like freeways" and all that, then you're brought into this world you thought you'd never see. Of course, this is a straight clone (minus localization and different architectural and engineering standards), so I don't think it'd fit in FW. Rides in FW should be edutainment (soarin and Nemo fail in this aspect), rides in Tomorrowland should be more free to do raw rides with great storytelling and world-building.

I agree, but it almost feels like with the addition of GOTG maybe FW might be changing? I mean "future" now is all about advancing techology, aliens and things - at the moment it just feels like it's stuck in the 00's. Space travel, despite being cool, is almost a thing of the past - it's no longer innovative and no longer something that people necessarily see as the "future" or "experimental prototype of tomorrow". I think TRON would be a way better fit to FW, with GOTG in TL since it fits in more with the theme there. There's no denying that FW needs a lot of love and attention, and GOTG is a much needed addition, regardless on what my opinion is.

 

[larryz]

I agree, but it almost feels like with the addition of GOTG maybe FW might be changing? I mean "future" now is all about advancing techology, aliens and things - at the moment it just feels like it's stuck in the 00's. Space travel, despite being cool, is almost a thing of the past - it's no longer innovative and no longer something that people necessarily see as the "future" or "experimental prototype of tomorrow". I think TRON would be a way better fit to FW, with GOTG in TL since it fits in more with the theme there. There's no denying that FW needs a lot of love and attention, and GOTG is a much needed addition, regardless on what my opinion is.

But... at least we're getting new rides, eh?

 

[Hayley In Wonderland]

But... at least we're getting new rides, eh?

EXACTLY! TL seems incredibly neglected compared to the rest of MK and EPCOT needs a lot of love - and those empty show buildings need to be used for something!

 

[mikejs78]

I agree, but it almost feels like with the addition of GOTG maybe FW might be changing? I mean "future" now is all about advancing techology, aliens and things - at the moment it just feels like it's stuck in the 00's. Space travel, despite being cool, is almost a thing of the past - it's no longer innovative and no longer something that people necessarily see as the "future" or "experimental prototype of tomorrow". I think TRON would be a way better fit to FW, with GOTG in TL since it fits in more with the theme there. There's no denying that FW needs a lot of love and attention, and GOTG is a much needed addition, regardless on what my opinion is.

Space Travel is a thing of the past? When's the last time you knew anyone who went to the moon? Or Mars? Or another planet?

 

[Kman101]

Everytime we've gone to Disney in the last 10 years our visits to dhs seem almost depressing.

Everything is so out of whack there. The park rides and shows are aging badly, the new stuff they've added seem to have been done on the fly and half-a$$ed, and there is zero connective tissue or flow to the park in general.

They're remedying it, but more has to be done. Indy needs to be blown up, rnrc needs SOMETHING, anything, done to retheme it. ToT just needs a little love. It's sad that in those last 15 words I named 2/3 of the things to do in dhs.

Man that park sucks in its current form.

I like the front half lol but yes, the park is in dire need. Star Wars and Toy Story Land should not have been the only answers. Nor should Mickey replacing another dark ride. They don't seem to "get it". They shouldn't have stopped with Toy Story Mania in 2008. That's when they should have expanded into the back and given us Toy Story Land. They really made a mistake putting Star Wars where they are (it should have expanded into the parking lot behind Star Tours, leaving the pad next to it for my dream of an Indy boat ride). How they could screw this up, I don't know.

They should have kept the courtyard where you used to enter the Backlot Tour along with the streets and the premiere theater.

A few dark rides over the years, like Roger and Muppets, would have gone a long way in the grand scheme of things.

Everything's reactionary and quick. Where's the long-term plan for these parks? The other Disney parks get 5 year plans released to the public and we get things shoved anywhere and everywhere.

This park frustrates me the most because it could have been SO much more than it is. Not saying Star Wars, Mickey, won't be great but I mean ... that's not going to solve problems. It's going to create problems. There STILL won't be enough in the parks when these new rides launch (which I know sounds insane but it's true; just like the MK needs some more high capacity things to soak up the crowds -- but the problem remains that anything new will draw more people, no matter what it is, so they're almost always going to have this problem which is why resting on your laurels for nearly 20 years isn't the smartest idea). Toy Story Land is going to be a nightmare. Rides that are fine, but shouldn't be MAIN draws, will be treated as such and have insane wait times.

 

[nickys]

wow surprised to see all the love to TSI but I understand... its a nice more quiet feeling area that fits the theme... however it needs some updates and TLC

But it does fit, albeit maybe more Adventureland than Frontierland. Tom Sawyer, Huck Finn. The theming is all there on the island.

 

[rle4lunch]

I like the front half lol but yes, the park is in dire need. Star Wars and Toy Story Land should not have been the only answers. Nor should Mickey replacing another dark ride. They don't seem to "get it". They shouldn't have stopped with Toy Story Mania in 2008. That's when they should have expanded into the back and given us Toy Story Land. They really made a mistake putting Star Wars where they are (it should have expanded into the parking lot behind Star Tours, leaving the pad next to it for my dream of an Indy boat ride). How they could screw this up, I don't know.

They should have kept the courtyard where you used to enter the Backlot Tour along with the streets and the premiere theater.

A few dark rides over the years, like Roger and Muppets, would have gone a long way in the grand scheme of things.

Everything's reactionary and quick. Where's the long-term plan for these parks? The other Disney parks get 5 year plans released to the public and we get things shoved anywhere and everywhere.

This park frustrates me the most because it could have been SO much more than it is. Not saying Star Wars, Mickey, won't be great but I mean ... that's not going to solve problems. It's going to create problems. There STILL won't be enough in the parks when these new rides launch (which I know sounds insane but it's true; just like the MK needs some more high capacity things to soak up the crowds -- but the problem remains that anything new will draw more people, no matter what it is, so they're almost always going to have this problem which is why resting on your laurels for nearly 20 years isn't the smartest idea). Toy Story Land is going to be a nightmare. Rides that are fine, but shouldn't be MAIN draws, will be treated as such and have insane wait times.

where's the petition to bring back the Osborne Lights contract? lol. We always (almost always) go to WDW the week after Thanksgiving, and besides ToT and RnRc (and maybe a Star Tours ride), the only reason we went to DHS was for the lights.

Indy has always been a 'one and done' for me. It's a weird premise, entertaining to watch once, but multiple viewings aren't warranted or necessary. I 'kinda' miss the backlot tour, but after doing the Uni Hollywood tour for so many years and seeing actual real live 'stars and actors' , the MGM/DHS tour was pretty weak and came off fake, so I don't really care it's gone.

The vaunted GMR didn't necessarily need to go, but it was pretty dang dated, and the little 'skit' was just dumb. A good update would've been fine.

RnRc needs to be re-themed desperately and plussed up with something besides cardboard cutouts and glow in the dark paint.

ToT just needs to work properly and needs a little more 'shake rattle and roll'. It doesn't feel nearly as unpredictable and quick as it's ToT (now MBO) twin at DCA. DHS is still the superior ride due to added scenes, but.... I'm also not saying it needs an overlay, just help.

TSMM has always been fun. I know a lot of people think it's cheap and stupid and lazy, yada yada, but this is a true family ride that people get off of talking about and have fun on.

Star Tours was fun 15 years ago. Now it feels like it should be in a cheap hotel somewhere in Vegas. Its gimmick is gone. The show scenes and changing scenarios are fun, but this is definitely not a ride that needs to be ridden every visit in its current iteration.

But yes, the whole park needs work. SO glad they're getting SWGE and the TS expansion pack though, cuz that means my next visit won't have 3 hour waits for FoP. lol

 

[Kman101]

Oh, I don't think they should have kept the backlot tour. The original was great. I don't miss what it became, sorry (though not really sorry because it was time for it to go; probably an unpopular opinion but oh well). I just thought they should have kept that area where they had the water effects before boarding the tram because it was a lot of space that could have held food options and likely a ride or two. It was a lot of space they got rid of.

I think some of the concerns are valid, but some sound like you're just tired of some of the experiences, not that they're necessarily dated or bad (IMO; the Indy stunt show is repeatable for me but I think the director aspect has to go - though I'd prefer a ride, obviously); Star Tours is great with the varied scenes and the updates it's received but I understand being tired of it; I'm all for a re-theme when Star Wars Land opens, though many want to cling to it). But getting tired of the same old likely comes from the fact that there's been nothing significantly new in ten years. They need to keep things fresh. Shows should not be running 20 years later.

I don't care either way for TSMM. I know people love it. That's fine. It's nice enough but I think they could have done something different and personally better for Toy Story. For DCA and the pier, midway games works for me. I'm not overly competitive either so I guess that plays a factor. The shooting at things aspect of it is what makes it repeatable. I'd personally take a dated dusty Buzz over it, lol. But we all have our own personal preferences.

I'm with you on RnRC but be prepared to be told it shouldn't be touched, for whatever reason. One of those is the park needs expansion. Well, yes, the park needs ADDED things but that doesn't mean other things don't also need to be replaced. Personally, RNRC felt like a knee-jerk reaction to get a coaster into the park. It's never been my favorite. But I know people love it because ZOMG IT'S A COASTER!

SO MUCH needs to be done.

 

[Kman101]

Anyway, to get this back on track, personally whether they went with TRON or Fire Mountain, neither solves the problem the MK has and will only add to it. IMO.

 

[rle4lunch]

They need to keep things fresh. Shows should not be running 20 years later.
SO MUCH needs to be done.

You just captured the main problem with WDW proper with 14 words.

 

[mikejs78]

Anyway, to get this back on track, personally whether they went with TRON or Fire Mountain, neither solves the problem the MK has and will only add to it. IMO.

A Fire mountain (or other Adventureland E-Ticket) would have helped because it would have distributed people towards that side of the park a bit more. Not a solution to fix it all, but it would have helped more than Tron.

 

[Kman101]

A Fire mountain (or other Adventureland E-Ticket) would have helped because it would have distributed people towards that side of the park a bit more. Not a solution to fix it all, but it would have helped more than Tron.

I was looking at it more for the overall crowding a new attraction would bring, regardless of the location. But you bring up a solid point. Both would have been a good idea ... Fire Mountain opens up more space in Adventureland, which is needed. It solves somewhat of a problem, but not the overall problem, IMO. But either way a new attraction will bring in a lot of people and the fact is they need things besides coasters (which is why it was so disappointing to many that they cancelled the theater on Main Street), not that I'm not saying they shouldn't add those too. I know several people who aren't super into Disney parks and even they're excited for Tron, Guardians and Star Wars Land (and these are people who have dismissed WDW as kiddie parks). I don't think Disney is at all prepared for the crowds they're going to get.

 

[marni1971]

wow surprised to see all the love to TSI but I understand... its a nice more quiet feeling area that fits the theme... however it needs some updates and TLC

It got quite a lot of TLC after Irma.

 

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[Sirwalterraleigh]

Well I saw the hole for tron today on a detour past the roundhouse to the GF...that makes me feel better at least.

The parks are absolutely screwed with crowds/ride capacity barring a recession...the only way to get anything close to a comfortable equilibrium is to knock out 25% of the clientele for 5+ years.

You can still have fun...but wdw is sliding down the slope to a no value experience if it gets worse.