Transformative Multi-Year Expansion Announced for WDS Paris

Supersnow84

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Tokyo’s sub land is kinda awful from a land perspective but the ride more than makes up for it especially since both only have one ride unlike Hong Kong

Like if you are going for the design of arendelle then HK beats it, if you are going for ride quality then Tokyo beats it

Not much guest overlap but still, kinda takes the wind out of the marketing sails
 

BrianLo

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As much as people think Cars Road Trip is lame, this map illustrates why I'd prefer they use other expansion plots (and replace the LMA theater) first before they scrap it.

Indeed, it just needs some money thrown at it. The next addition should go between Frozen and Cars Road Trip. Particularly the River bend is nicely laid out to tuck a show building back into.

I still think a unique Pandora over a half baked Rise/Galaxies Edge clone. The latter feels like a Universal approach to their parks. Way of Water’s break out market remains France.
 

Animaniac93-98

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Indeed, it just needs some money thrown at it. The next addition should go between Frozen and Cars Road Trip. Particularly the River bend is nicely laid out to tuck a show building back into.

I still think a unique Pandora over a half baked Rise/Galaxies Edge clone. The latter feels like a Universal approach to their parks. Way of Water’s break out market remains France.

I also think it's just silly to spread Star Wars across the 2 parks*, something Disney has yet to do elsewhere

*Yes, I know and saw that Fireworks show WDSP used to have. Was good. I'm fine with the IP in shows
 

marni1971

Park History nut
Premium Member
I still think a unique Pandora over a half baked Rise/Galaxies Edge clone. The latter feels like a Universal approach to their parks. Way of Water’s break out market remains France.
I’m the opposite. Keep Pandora out (unless they can turn the screen attraction into an E ticket and one that lasts 20 minutes).

Or better move Star Tours to WDSP to complement Rise and use the whole back of Discoveryland for new things that fits the land. But that would be IP free so would never happen under Iger.
 

Supersnow84

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Does SEA count as an IP because discoveryland could easily work as part of an SEA expansion similar to the American waterfront

I’d actually be fine dumping Star Wars into WDS if it means getting a lot of haphazard IP out of Parc Disneyland. Parc Disneyland is flawless from a magic kingdom design perspective without haphazard modern IP
 

Animaniac93-98

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marni1971

Park History nut
Premium Member
@marni1971 , are you able to work your magic and somehow simplify the blueprints into one of your own sketches of it? I can’t really follow the diagrams.
Don’t feel obliged to though! 😊
Ha. You beat me to it.

Disclaimer - drawn after only one coffee and not entirely accurate or fully to scale. Yellow haze are lifts, cyan drops.

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Go upwards from dual load. Yellow lift takes you to the top floor. First drop goes down to the intermediate floor. Second drop goes down to the ground ish floor. Third lift goes up to the big drop.

Excuse the watermark. You’d be surprised where these things end up nowerdays.
 
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mrflo

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It also isn’t amazingly long.

A little bit sobering, especially after those initial rumours of a 15-minute ride. 🤔 Even with the bigger show building, the wider boats and flume, indoor queue with double loading, and even a shop, plus the lack of those initial outdoor sections do seem to impact the overall track length.

What do you think — will the total track and ride time end up shorter, about the same, or maybe still a bit longer than Splash Mountain in WDW or Tokyo?
 

marni1971

Park History nut
Premium Member
A little bit sobering, especially after those initial rumours of a 15-minute ride. 🤔 Even with the bigger show building, the wider boats and flume, indoor queue with double loading, and even a shop, plus the lack of those initial outdoor sections do seem to impact the overall track length.

What do you think — will the total track and ride time end up shorter, about the same, or maybe still a bit longer than Splash Mountain in WDW or Tokyo?
Educated guess without much research, just looking at today’s information, says shorter than Splash. A very very very rough educated ballpark guess says this final lift would roughly be where you’d expect the first (double) drop into the intermediate Laughing Place level would be (Brer Bear AA headfirst into the beehive and the Brer Rabbit AA looking out of the hole above the ride path). I’d like to be wrong.
 

IMDREW

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Ha. You beat me to it.

Disclaimer - drawn after only one coffee and not entirely accurate or fully to scale. Yellow haze are lifts, cyan drops.

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Go upwards from dual load. Yellow lift takes you to the top floor. First drop goes down to the intermediate floor. Second drop goes down to the ground ish floor. Third lift goes up to the big drop.

Excuse the watermark. You’d be surprised where these things end up nowerdays.
Well that puts things in another perspective :(
 

marni1971

Park History nut
Premium Member
Well that puts things in another perspective :(
Again, it’s a very very rough guesstimate. I agree with @jmuboy a rough ballpark figure is around 8 minutes. Maybe a little more. Not too shabby but not Orlando Splash length which was designed to around 11 minutes.

I’m especially interested in the parallel dual load aspect and how that helps with capacity. Plus the disabled specific load/unload. IIRC the last water parallel dual load was built in Orlando in 1973 (and later removed)? Although this one is a monster. Parallel dual load with each lane having two boarding stations. Technically they could load 5 boats simultaneously.
 
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