Railway is mooted for Disneyland Parc on the original Mermaid plot.
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Transformative Multi-Year Expansion Announced for WDS Paris
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britain
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Mooted? As in moot? As in, canceled? Please tell me this is some Manchesterism.
As in proposed
UpAllNight
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As in proposed
Any more additional plans for the main park? Adventureland could do with something a little extra.
IMDREW
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Something a little adventurous like indy
yensidtlaw1969
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Am I the only one who thinks it's strange that Runaway Railway is set for DLP's Fantasyland and not their Studios?
I figured we would have gotten some version of a Mermaid Dark Ride on that plot, given that Disney has actually developed one now. I'd personally rather a new classic-style Fantasyland Dark Ride there than MMRR. It just doesn't seem to fit that part of the Parc. Though I guess I don't know if it will fit the Studios after its transformation.
Off topic, what ever came of the talk of a Mermaid Dark Ride in TDS? I remember hearing TDL brass were shown the ride at DCA and basically said "try again". Does the Fantasy Springs expansion preclude that from actually happening? I have to assume a good Mermaid Dark Ride would be high on the list for TDS, it makes only too much sense for that park.
A Noble Fish
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DLP Parc is beautiful but really needs a fresh headlining dark-ride.
The only clones that really work for it that I can think of are Splash Mountain, Indy, TRON, Soarin', Pooh's Hunny Hunt, and Mickey makes by far the most sense.
I understand the decision, and as much as an Indy or Moana ride would be great, a headlining heightless requirement ride is what the park needs. Then, in the future, perhaps an Indy ride, who knows?
As for WDS, a Mickey ride would work better thematically, but from a logistics standpoint, with all going on in that park right now, and with the other park desperately needing a new ride as well, Mickey seems like a cost-effective choice. WDS could use a Toy Story Mania! to better effect anyway, or even Soarin'.
montydysquith-navarro
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You're not the only one who finds it weird. Unless DLP is building a mini Toontown (as reported some replies ago), Runaway Railway fits in Fantasyland as Mickey's PhiharMagic fits in Discoveryland (that is to say, not). I really think the Studios is only the best place to place this ride since either iteration would fit well. Finally giving the Studios its own Chinese Theatre and replicating the DHS version still fits within the context of the Production Courtyard. On the other hand, constructing the El Capitoon Theatre and replicating the DLR version would fit well in Toon Studios. Though financially speaking, the latter option seems to be more feasible since it doesn't involve constructing a brand new mini-land in the Parc or demolishing facades along Main Street/Sunset Boulevard/whatever they're calling the new avenue to the new expansion, dealing with Grauman's for licensing...
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yensidtlaw1969
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I understand that, and I don’t disagree with most of it. I just wonder if Mickey’s movie premiere is really gonna work in their Fantasyland, which is otherwise a pastoral European Fairytale countryside.
Mickey will be across the street from the Italian Pizzeria Bella Notte - I could see Prince Eric’s Castle working aesthetically across the way, but I’m not sure what they’ll do to make Runaway Railway’s exterior fit.
Not to mention that once you’re inside the style of animation clashes with the styles featured through the rest of the land, which are all legacy animated properties. Mermaid would have worked well with that.
I guess my concern is that the theming across the park is so nearly pristine, even after decades, that I’d hate to see that disrupted just because the park needs a jolt in the arm. I’d think there’s a way to have their cake and eat it too.
A Noble Fish
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Very good points raised. Besides parts of Discoveryland, that's 100% true. It's pure, and that's a legitimate concern. That side of the land though isn't as damaging as the main area. I'm intrigued so see how it will be done, but from a ride concern, I'd say it's a smarter move to put Mickey at DLP and eventually TSM at WDS. If it wasn't for that I'd 100% agree.
Thinking about it more though, that area is peaceful, but more of a walkway. I'm cautiously optimistic. I suppose we shall see.
montydysquith-navarro
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Adventureland really needs that Indiana Jones expansion badly since it's the more unrealized land in the Parc (in contrast to the other parks' most unrealized land--Tomorrowland--which we got off easily with Discoveryland. Good move, Tony Baxter and Tim Delaney). I think with today's Imagineering technology, the four-rides-in-one-huge-show-building idea is possible (well, two in our case, unless they move forward with the Jungle Book Cruise ride).
Does anyone know how long is the exclusivity rights for the new Enchanted Tale of Beauty and the Beast ride in Tokyo Disneyland? Considering that the Parc was supposed to have a Beauty and the Beast ride (as well as a Little Mermaid one) in the first place, I think this could be the headlining heightless dark ride the Parc needs. I'm genuinely curious though, is the movie still popular and relevant to the French today? Because if it is, then it fits in Iger's Imagineering belief of creating rides that are attuned to the locals' taste (like Ratatouille in the Studios).
A Noble Fish
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Perhaps a multi-phased plan is what the resort needs over say, 6 years. The first get it up to standards, the second keeps the momentum going if efforts are successful.
WDS is getting Marvel, Frozen, and Star Wars. Toy Story Mania! is the obvious next step forward, if Mickey goes to DLP that is.
So at DLP, if Mickey doesn't come, then can you see them spending an arm and a leg for Beauty, and then an Adventureland expansion? Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if it's Mickey and then Soarin' for Adventureland if phase 1 is successful. Another factor is Indiana Jones 5 if it's a great movie and has good box office, that bodes well for its chances in Adventureland, but as a phase 1, a family ride is needed. Who knows how the world will be after both parks get their coming expansions, we'll see.
fradz
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Plans? Yes, many ideas are floating around. I've talked about quite a few in the past.
Anything that is actually going to happen? Who knows
From what I've gathered, the two most likely would be Mickey and in second place Indy. At least that was true a while ago. I'll be in the park end of the month.
Definitely, and if that would be a tell; whenever I watch Illuminations, the BatB section always gets a lot of cheers
It’s the same company that moved it from DCA to DL. Which one needs it more?
montydysquith-navarro
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That's true. The placement of it in the European village of Fantasyland is just weird, but then again, they put Mickey's PhilharMagic in the Victorian steampunk-inspired Discoveryland, so
. Soarin' does require a height restriction though (minimum of 40"), so if they want more family-friendly rides without a height restriction that's not Runaway Railway (if it does go into Fantasyland), they'd have to clone something else that's available year-round (indoor Jungle Book Cruise anyone?).Wait, Disneyland's Runaway Railway was supposed to be in DCA? I assume it would be taking place of Mike and Sulley to the Rescue in Hollywood Land?
yensidtlaw1969
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Tremendous point. Who's running this ship??
EDITED To Add: At least Toontown is a pretty good thematic fit. You do still run into the issue of it being placed in the context of legacy-style animation (I hate that I even have to call it that). "New" Mickey looks veeery different from the "Old" Mickey that lives down the street in Toontown.
That was the original pitch. It’s not like Hollywood Land has a few empty sheds.
Two modest C/D dark rides next to iasw would work wonders. A third on the BatB plot perhaps but it’d be a squeeze. And Railway in the studios that’ll still need it (and has an ideal plot where Reign of Fire was)
Paris still has the possibility of using the Fland theatre underpass to a show building outside the berm too.
So does Discoverland. And don’t mention Adlands space. Still so much potential.
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fradz
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There should be a Tangled ride, but it's not gonna be in Parc Disneyland, and it's not gonna be a dark ride
