Riviera Rita
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Please elaborate.
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Toy Story Land expansion announced for Disney's Hollywood Studios
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WorldExplorer
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It looks like something that's relying entirely on referencing something better to make it seem worthwhile.
Maybe the rest of it looks better.
ToTBellHop
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The rest of Pixar Pier?
‘Fraid not.
At least Incredicoaster is just a fun coaster. Helps be look past the skewered babies. But it was fun as California Screamin’. All The Incredibles added (to me…) is better music.
iamgroot61
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Would you mind elaborating on this, please?
SplashJacket
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As someone who’s currently using a restroom (actively) in Pixar Pier to avoid the torrential downpours that are closing the parks early today, revisiting DCA after spending extensive time at DHS this past summer, wow. Hollywood Studios is a joke. There’s no part of this park that stands out to me as offensively ugly (except parts of Hollywood land) but Hollywood Studios has ugliness flanking both sides of the hub.
IMHO, they did a really good job on Pixar Pier. They plussed Paradise Pier around a decade ago, which made it much nicer. Then with Pixar, they plussed in again. Sure, it’s imperfect, but as a whole, great, enjoyable land.
UNCgolf
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I think Pixar Pier is a massive downgrade from Paradise Pier; they spent money to improve Paradise Pier and make it a solid part of the park, then spent more money to ruin it.
I'd also disagree about DHS though in that I think basically all of the original parts of that park are great. I don't see any ugliness in any of the original construction; the theming is excellent and captures exactly what they were trying to capture. I can certainly understand disliking the studio backlot aesthetic, but the transition from "Los Angeles" into the studio backlot areas functions much like it does in actual LA and I thought it worked really well.
That said, it doesn't work nearly as well now with the changes throughout the park, both in terms of things like TSL and Galaxy's Edge (regardless of how anyone feels about their overall quality, they're a significant departure from original/remaining theme of rest of the park) and the way they've hacked away at the theming of the original LA/Hollywood areas.
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Centauri Space Station
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Compared to Toy story playland in WDSP, HKDL, and SDL it’s way better
Centauri Space Station
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Hollywood Blvd, sunset Blvd, and SWGE are better than anything at DCA. Also avengers, Pixar pier, and hollywoodland are atrocities
SplashJacket
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Hollywood Blvd and Sunset Blvd are basically the exact same thing, and DCA’s entrance and is very well done and extremely pleasant to walk through, filled with the kinetics of the trolley and other enjoyable sights.
The whole Grizzly area, with Soarin’, is fantastically themed and highly enjoyable to walk through.
After visiting Cars Land for the first time since GE opened, I honestly believe it’s the better land, ignoring attraction lineup.
I just strongly disagree that Pixar Pier is poor, or a downgrade from Paradise Pier. I’ve heard that crap for years, and going there, I was super surprised by how much I enjoyed it, and its aesthetics.
Avenger’s Campus isn’t without flaws, but the land had a great vibe. Food was great, rides were great (once again I’ve heard for years that Webslingers was crap, I thoroughly enjoyed it).
SplashJacket
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I’d argue it didn’t work before, and it especially doesn’t work now. The Studio aspect of Universal Studios Hollywood (criminally underrated and smeared park) is horrendously ugly. But it doesn’t matter. It’s ugliness is entirely forgiven by its authenticity. Hollywood Studios was ugly when it opened and it’s ugly now. That hasn’t changed in the slightest.
Universal Hollywood’s aesthetics are greatly bolstered by its mountains, something Hollywood Studios never had.
Hollywood Studio’s original design was a cost-cutting measure, not a design choice to bolster the product.
For sure
Barely passable efforts for Downtown Disney in the 90s.
DCA's issues continue. Associative theming only.
UNCgolf
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I couldn't disagree more.
The front part of Disney-MGM Studios was gorgeous and one of the best things Disney has built in Florida. Part of the reason the park feels so disjointed now is because of how badly they've hacked up that original masterpiece. Of course whether it worked or not is subjective, but the first time I visited LA and went to a studio lot I was surprised by how much it all reminded me of Disney-MGM Studios, so I think they nailed it.
That doesn't mean the park itself was perfect (far from it, although the late 1990s version of the park was probably better than what exists now, especially from a cohesive theming aspect), but the entrance and Hollywood Boulevard was as good as and possibly better than Main Street at the Magic Kingdom.
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cjkeating
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Nothing that happened in the Pixar Pier overlay is worthy of a Disney park. Incredicoaster is on the level of a 'Batman' or 'Superman' coaster at Six Flag's.
It was a quick and dirty project to appease Lasseter for losing A Bug's Land for Avengers Campus when it moved location that also had the seal of approval from Chapek because it ticked his boxes of IP, cheap and fast.
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Movielover
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lazyboy97o
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Pixar Pier wasn’t cheap. It cost more than Expedition Everest (even after adjusting for inflation).
I don't understand this.
Except for walking into SWL or TSL, all the public walking space of DHS is still themed to LA/Hollywood of various time periods.
Even the Christmas decorations respect the time period they show up in.
Even with the building of SWL, they doubled down on LA/Hollywood by creating a modern homage to downtown LA with Grand Ave. Square.
Centauri Space Station
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DCAs entrance copied HWB basically complete with the gas station, theatre weenie and high end restaurant. Pixar Pier basically took a carnival area and threw random pixar statues around. Web is redundant when TSMM sits 50 feet away.
My hot take: "Pixar" is not a theme.
Bocabear
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so...back on the topic, is the restaurant that was supposed to open years ago considered the "expansion"?
While I feel like TSL has been done to death at the parks, and none of the iterations feel particularly compelling, I would rather them not expand it, but do something that adds to the overall park... an Indiana Jones themed area with a few new attractions replacing the Stunt show would be great... A fully fleshed out Toontown replacing the Animation building, Mermaid, etc for that side of the park would be a great add too... It was such a hit at Disneyland...I am always surprised it was not baked into the original plans for this park.
While I feel like TSL has been done to death at the parks, and none of the iterations feel particularly compelling, I would rather them not expand it, but do something that adds to the overall park... an Indiana Jones themed area with a few new attractions replacing the Stunt show would be great... A fully fleshed out Toontown replacing the Animation building, Mermaid, etc for that side of the park would be a great add too... It was such a hit at Disneyland...I am always surprised it was not baked into the original plans for this park.
Them's a lot of wants. Would you settle for a cupcake?