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Toy Story Land expansion announced for Disney's Hollywood Studios
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You know that Walt himself put fair rides in the pinnacle of theme park entertainment, right?
Casper Gutman
Well-Known Member
I agree with your points, but your avatars are making me worry you and The Fireman might be in cahoots with one another!
Drink full and descend...
n2hifi
Active Member
TNot to take sides, but I think that is definitely part of it. While ToT is a classic well designed immersive experience that shows the pinnacle of Imagineering and TSMM is a lightly themed midway ride, I rate TSMM higher. Why? When I got off of ToT the one time I rode it, I found a quiet corner to rest and settle my nausea. When I get off of TSMM it's a fun argument about scores and riding again. We ride TSMM every visit, but I have only done ToT once and my girls will not ride it. It's unfortunate because I do feel it is superior. It's the only ride in the park my stomach can't handle.
mikejs78
Premium Member
Dumbo, Teacups, Carousel, Speedway, Railroad. Variations of which can be found and most minor amusement parks around the world. Represented nearly 40% of Magic Kingdom's opening day attractions, and all still running strong.
Casper Gutman
Well-Known Member
I suspect you are well aware of the financial and time constraints that DL was under at opening. The RR (to a huge extent) and Speedway are also something of a different matter, because they tie into Disney’s larger philosophical viewpoint and cultural project. In addition, I’m relatively sure that DL MADE the railroad a standard fairground attraction. This may also be true of Autopia, though I could be wrong.
As the parks were subsequently developed by Walt and Roy and time and cash flow gave them more freedom, it became pretty clear that they did not favor fairground rides.
By the way, this is an example of a really wierd argument tactic people defending modern Disney seem to use, the “actually Disney has always been bad” approach.
mikejs78
Premium Member
First of all, I was referring to MK, not DL. They didn't have to clone those rides when they opened MK, they weren't under the same kinds of restraints. They also could have shut them down by now - they've shut down plenty of other attractions.
I also wasnt saying that it was bad. There's a place for this, even in WDW. If this was *all* they did, then sure, I'd be complaining right there with you. But it's not. In the next year, DHS will get arguably 3 new E-ticket attractions using very modern, immersive tech. TSL, in my opinion, balances that out and offers the rounded out B/C tickets that the park is lacking.
I suspect that the criticism would have been more muted if SWGE/MMRR had opened first, and TSL added as a phase 2 to round out the park. But as it is, TSL is the first new addition to DHS in a long time, after many closures, and so I think the reaction is that we waited this long for *this*???!! It's certainly not the worst land in WDW, and in reality it looks like a nice, moderately-themed land that families will love (my son can't wait), and will provide those needed B/C ticket attractions to offset some of the capacity from the big 3 being launched next year.
Far worse of an offense than TSL was the shuttering of GMR. It was a classic, had high capacity, and just needed some TLC. I'm sure I'll love MMR, but that would have been even better as a new build or taking over some underutilized space like Launch Bay.
J. D.
Well-Known Member
It's another word for a donkey, so...
im not sure what the 400.00 is for. my assumption is a ticket into DHS should be enough, correct?
J. D.
Well-Known Member
In that case, you're acting like a jack-Alien-Swirling-Saucers.
Disney Analyst
Well-Known Member
not surprised
this place will be opposite of pandora
Disney IP that will be uber popular early on and then peter out
DinoInstitute
Well-Known Member
Well, you were right, there certainly is some cognitive dissonance here.
Rteetz
Well-Known Member
Others have said its fun. I think people should go in with average expectations. Don't expect to be blown away or anything.
It's the correct response to those who say, like the one above who started this, "I can't believe they would ever do this!!!"
zachrupertdsn
Well-Known Member
Dude ... enough of the manufactured drama, you are on a forum for a theme park, calm down.
You know what's also against the rules? Discussing moderation issues outside the Help Forum.
Casper Gutman
Well-Known Member
The long drought is part of the reason TSL is so underwhelming, but far from the only reason. For one thing, we had seen TSLs added to other Disney parks and no one on these boards hesitated to mock them and call them what they are - pathetically cheap and chintzy stopgaps. Their purpose was blatantly obvious. Then we got one.
Not only did we get one, we got one as part of a much needed makeover we’d been anticipating for a very, very long time. And after all that time, we got a version that was less impressive then the least impressive rumors. And then it was cut some more after being announced.
Andrew C
You know what's funny?
did you make a parody account just to mess with us?