Casper Gutman
Well-Known Member
Paper fastpass wasn't nearly as big an impediment to a relaxing vacation as the current iteration, but yes - the decline has been long and constant.Soooo since 1999?
Paper fastpass wasn't nearly as big an impediment to a relaxing vacation as the current iteration, but yes - the decline has been long and constant.Soooo since 1999?
The were an impediment in the mechanics of a queue. Really, you pay the same amount as everyone else yet now you get to stand there without moving for want seems like eternity while others, that also paid what you did, stroll by you and legally cut the line? It wasn't even the mess that created, it was the attitudes. (please don't say everyone had that opportunity to get a Fastpass, that ridiculous thought should have been dispelled a long time ago). They cut off when it got to a certain number those that couldn't get there early on lost out. Now the new FP is limited in numbers depending on the time of day they are issued for. They can be easily manipulated by electronic surveillance and can be changed moment to moment. That created even more frustration, anger and upset.Paper fastpass wasn't nearly as big an impediment to a relaxing vacation as the current iteration, but yes - the decline has been long and constant.
Paper fastpass wasn't nearly as big an impediment to a relaxing vacation as the current iteration, but yes - the decline has been long and constant.
Really.Really?.
Really.
Really?
I used to hit a park, then dash across it - (sometimes leaving my wife to watch the kids when they were smaller and couldn't keep up) over to the paper ticket dispenser.
Repeat that process at another dispenser.
Now our rides are scheduled ahead of time and we can use the free time in between for standby rides if the wait is short enough, as well as take in the sights, eat shop...
A tipping point is being reached at WDW, with the theme parks running at near-capacity year-round. The following puts this in historical perspective, showing annual attendance divided by the number of theme parks:
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The problem is not merely at the attractions. The buses, walkways, dining areas, bathrooms, etc. are more crowded than ever. The theme parks were not designed to handle these loads for this extended period of time.
A fifth theme park is needed by 2025 in order to avoid a significant reduction in services.
So it’s just a coincidence that correlation occurred with a desired causation? FastPass+ was supposed to increase wait times.Correlation is not causation.
FP+ arrived at the time of increased wait times. You know what else arrived at the time of increased wait times? Ever increasing attendance for decades.
Peoplemover often instigates the stack queue, which also has the effect of a Fastpass merge.Correlation is not causation.
FP+ arrived at the time of increased wait times. You know what else arrived at the time of increased wait times? Ever increasing attendance for decades.
Case in point: I've seen the queue for the People Mover back up (without there being a break down). The People Mover is not on the FP+ system.
I’d rather have paper FP. Of course I’d rather have no FP but we’re going way off topic.Not for everyone.
(EDIT: But yes I agree the decline has been long and constant; I'm not a fan of FP in general but I don't hate the new system, it could be better and I hate what they spent but I prefer it to paper FP and running around the park)
I’d rather have paper FP. Of course I’d rather have no FP but we’re going way off topic.
That’s exactly how Disneyland’s MaxPass works.I would prefer if fast passes were scheduled same day, one at a time, through the phone. That would even the playing field in my eyes.
That’s exactly how Disneyland’s MaxPass works.
I prefer it over FP+ as well
See I like that, don't want to pay for it though LOL But that's what fp+ should have been all along. The fact that you can plan to ride something 180 days in advance is Ludacris.That’s exactly how Disneyland’s MaxPass works. I prefer it over FP+ as well
That’s exactly how Disneyland’s MaxPass works.
I prefer it over FP+ as well
For me paper fastpass was worse. To be able to enjoy the most attractions and work the system, when we got out of an attraction I would send the family in the direction of our next attraction and I would run across the park with all of our tickets to run the tickets through fastpass kiosk of the attraction we wanted to get the next fastpass for and then run back across the park to meet up with them. It made every day a workout and split us up constantly. We also used to spend a couple of days at the end of a week long trip park hopping and hitting our favorite attractions in each park before we had to travel back home. You can't even do that anymore because of fastpass.Paper fastpass wasn't nearly as big an impediment to a relaxing vacation as the current iteration, but yes - the decline has been long and constant.
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