TS4 in comparison to its prequels and the rest of Pixar...
TS4 won't finish debuting internationally until near the end of August.
TS4 won't finish debuting internationally until near the end of August.
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Toy Story 4 SPOILER Discussion
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General Mayhem
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To be fair you can't blame him, Disney hasn't been releasing a trustworthy track record of film's lately. If he does want to spend money on seeing the film then that is his choice.
KBLovedDisney
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Saw it yesterday. Definitely teared up at the end. You can also feel that the movie was geared toward the generation that grew up with the Toy Story movies.
DH says that was a gut punch of a movie. It was good but boy it was hard to watch.
DH says that was a gut punch of a movie. It was good but boy it was hard to watch.
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EricsBiscuit
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Magenta Panther
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Thank you.
And TS4's box office has now been revised down to $118 million. FWIW.
‘Toy Story 4’: Disney Leaves Money On The Table Stateside With $118M Debut, But Grabs $238M Global Opening Record For Animated Pic
Disney is reporting the Thursday night of Pixar's Toy Story at $12M, the second-best preview night for an animated pic.
deadline.com
While there are no records domestically, unless you want to count 3rd highest opening weekend this year, but hey, it wasn't #1 and that's all that counts, which is why for all the numerounoistas out there, TS4 did come in as #1 for global animated opening weekend of all time.
Tony Perkis
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I didn’t think much of the movie, but this rant says far more about you than it does the decisions of the filmmakers. This is a profoundly bad take.
Tony Perkis
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You’ve complained about Jasmine as a strong female character in the Aladdin remake, Rey in Star Wars, and created a thread in the politics sub complaining about “woke” Dumbo because they got rid of the Jim Crow crows, and I can’t believe I actually had to type that last one out.Yeah, Ninja Bo Peep, truly what the world needs now . If she were a Jedi she'd learn the Force in twenty seconds flat because I AM WOMAN blah blah blah.
Yep that was a turnoff to me right away, and the things I've heard about the film since has led me to cancel my plans to see it.
A friend of mine did, and is livid about the ending. Also said that overall it isn't much fun. So yeah, pass.
The film isn't underperforming as such, but its opening weekend is below even Disney's estimates, and it tends to be conservative - it figured $140 million, and the flick is coming in at $123 million. I'd bet a cookie that this is the last film in the franchise. So if Disney is concerned about aged IP and wants to replace it with new - well Toy Story is already old, so what's the logic in replacing Country Bears with it? Seems like a shallow-brained knee-jerk decision, but hey, this is Iger's company now...
At some point, it’s clear you just don’t like females in leading roles overshadowing their male counterparts.
General Mayhem
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Listen all of those female characters are terrible. It has nothing to do with their gender, at some point you have to admit that they are more political pawns than characters. Also it's a difference of opinion, chill.
Tony Perkis
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No. If the root of a criticism is that a female overshadowed a male character, then that should be called out. And it’s evident in this thread. Feel free to agree with those posters.
General Mayhem
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I do agree with them, there are better ways to give female characters a spotlight without castrating the male characters. Well written female lead characters (which these are not) have been a thing for a long time dude, it's nothing revolutionary.
Tony Perkis
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In no way did any of the films I mentioned “castrate” the male characters. Woody not being the hero for once is not a downgrade to his character, very similar to how Furiosa in a Mad Max: Fury Road didn’t demean Max, despite her being the actual lead character.
The complaint is so very specifically having to call attention to women doing something better than their male counterpart, and whether you see it or not, if the complaint comes from that point of view initially, it’s clear where the viewers’ heads are at.
And it’s not complimentary.
You, and other posters, could have said that you didn’t like the way Woody was treated in the film or that Bo Peep didn’t have a solid character arc, and that would have sufficient. But you all specifically had to point out female saving a male, and that’s suspect.
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General Mayhem
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They have every right to be that way if they want to. As long as they live in America they have freedom of thought and speech. You are allowed to disagree with them all you like, but if they want to hold that opinion they can.
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Tony Perkis
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Anybody has the right to any opinion. That’s the first amendment in action.
I will call it out if I think it’s dumb or there’s a clear idiotic motive, though.
General Mayhem
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That's cool and all but I think you are painting this as black and white when it's morally grey.
Tony Perkis
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I’ve seen this sort of reaction from a few of these posters on multiple occasions. There’s a clear motivation in that viewpoint.
General Mayhem
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Woah woah woah, calm down there slugger. What possible motivation could there be? lol This is really dramatic for a conversation about a movie called "Toy Story 4". Haha
Tony Perkis
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Feel free to undermine my point, but I’m not evaluating things in a vacuum. Past precedent has been part of the equation.
General Mayhem
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Are you trolling at this point, or are you really this involved? Cause it is not that serious my dude.