cheezbat
Well-Known Member
Gotta love the price hikes and all the cutbacks at WDW to help reach those numbers.
There's a right way and a wrong way to do it. Universal is doing it the right way...Disney... :/
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Too much Potter... Bad?
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Gotta love the price hikes and all the cutbacks at WDW to help reach those numbers.
There's a right way and a wrong way to do it. Universal is doing it the right way...Disney... :/
danlb_2000
Premium Member
"Will to much Potter be bad?", without a doubt yes, will Universal reach the point of "to much" with the WWoHP expansion, I would say no. The first phase was so successful and Harry Potter still has enough social relevance that I think the expansion with be a sure fire hit, and putting in Universal instead of IOA is a very shrewd business move. The first phase has done a lot of good for Universal, not only in the money made directly from it, but from that fact that it drew people to Universal who have never been there and a lot of these people will become repeat customers. I think they could close Phase 1 tomorrow and it would have more then paid for itself.
cheezbat
Well-Known Member
Just goes to show you...spend the money for quality attractions, and people will gladly fork out the cash to pay you back.
Bairstow
Well-Known Member
What a novel concept.
lazyboy97o
Well-Known Member
Just like Walt Universal used to say, "Quality will out."
Well before.
yeah i was thinking the same thing...like it paid for itself in like 3 months..maybe im wrong.... cant imagine how many butterbeers they ve sold in 2 years
Captain Chaos
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The amount of Potter than will be in the parks I think would be fine and not too much... Many people can't get enough Potter.. But, after this expansion, what else could they possibly do??? They have done the main areas people want to visit from the Potter universe... So, I think they covered it all... I guess there is the Dark or Forbidden Forest, but what could they possibly do for it that would be entertaining for guests???
scoobygirl39541
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I strongly dislike HP so yes, its already too much for me. I can appreciate a well-themed land with an excellent new ride... but the fact that its HP takes away some for me. I'm sure I'm in the minority, but I'm so tired of hearing about HP. Its been everywhere since 2004 
Enough already IMO
Enough already IMO
AndyMagic
Well-Known Member
Since all Potter related attractions and environments will be thematically connected to each other, it will work perfectly. You run into trouble if you start doing what Disney currently does with its Pixar properties and haphazardly placing a few Toy Story attractions in one park and another in another park and a Nemo ride here and a Nemo show there. This will be an amazing experience that happens to span two parks. And with Transformers and an expanded Springfield area on the horizon, it's clear that Uni realizes other investments will be beneficial as well. If they were ONLY building Potter that would be enough but the fact that they are investing in other areas of the resort speaks volumes.
Captain Chaos
Well-Known Member
I strongly dislike HP so yes, its already too much for me. I can appreciate a well-themed land with an excellent new ride... but the fact that its HP takes away some for me. I'm sure I'm in the minority, but I'm so tired of hearing about HP. Its been everywhere since 2004
Can I ask, what properties are you a fan of???
ParentsOf4
Well-Known Member
Thank you for your honest opinion. IMHO, HP is an amazing franchise (so wish WDW had it) but I definitely can see how it could be disliked. It's sort of like getting a food shoved down my throat. Everyone else might think it's to die for but I might simply think it's nasty tasting.I strongly dislike HP so yes, its already too much for me. I can appreciate a well-themed land with an excellent new ride... but the fact that its HP takes away some for me. I'm sure I'm in the minority, but I'm so tired of hearing about HP. Its been everywhere since 2004
HTF
Well-Known Member
If I'm not mistaken Marni wasn't it just after Q4 started??? I mean it literally paid for itself in nearly one fiscal quarter folks!
TowerOfTerror
Well-Known Member
I am indifferent on the Potter franchise and anything after this expansion would be excessive in my opinion. I do enjoy the quality work that went into creating the current version of the land, and can't wait to see what they have in store for the new expansion. It's great to see Universal is finally doing so well financially and reinvesting the money into many new experiences. Keep it up Universal!
flynnibus
Premium Member
That is not possible with the numbers they released.
Wwhp supposed cost more than 200 million. To pay for that means an extra 200 million in profits.
Their q3 profits jumped approx 60 million. Their q4 profits were up approx 85 million yty. So even if you attested all new profits to hp, they didn't increase profits enough to pay for it. Their 2010 number total profit for the year was 279 million compared to 155 million the year prior. So even if you attested all new profit to hp for the entire year- it still had not collected enough to pay for itself
Now this isn't entirely accurate as the revenue streams brought in by hp may be higher margin than the rest of the property and profits from hp are 'lost' against other expenses in the total profit numbers. But if you look at increased revenue the q3 increase was approx 140 million in revenues and 162 million in q4
So there was a boost of just over 302 million in revenue over the first two quarters of hp.
Maybe they can get 66% margin on some goods so the 6month number isn't completely irrational but they can't take 140 million in revenue and turn that into 200 million in profit
Numbers from http://articles.orlandosentinel.com...izarding-world-universal-orlando-harry-potter
scoobygirl39541
Well-Known Member
Are you referring to USO lands? If so, Jurassic Park for sure! Maybe that's why HP left a sore spot since it supposedly took over JP's expansion land. But yeah, just in general, never was a fan of HP.
Captain Chaos
Well-Known Member
In IOA... JP is pretty cool, wish more was done with it... And they still might... JP still has an expansion pad...
Pumbas Nakasak
Heading for the great escape.
Cant stand Potter but think the area and attractions are fantastic. It will only be too much if the additions are done badly.
Sounds like fan boy sour grapes.
Sounds like fan boy sour grapes.
of course lol