Too much money and not worth it..

Tanna Eros

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It's information overload, so that's totally understandable. I just kept it simple. Said no to all the add ons, did fast passes for the stuff with really long lines, made 2 dinner reservations, and left lots of room for rest and free play. We did MK 2 days and Hollywood Studios another day.
It is overload. It reminds me of that scene in "Raising Arizona" where the lady played by Frances McDormand is rattling off this huge list to Ed about all the things that have to be done for Ed, Jr. "You just gotta getta DipTet!" to a woman who just thought owning a baby would be all she had to do.

I started reading these forums and got my mind fogged and bewildered about fast passes, reservations six months out, be at the rope drop, and on and on until I just wanted to lay down on the floor from mental exhaustion. I ended up just making camper reservations for my 25th anniversary in Fort Wilderness and hope I don't have to jump through hoops to ride a horse.
If the price jumps are to keep out the riffraff out of the parks, they sure succeeded with me.
 
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Club Cooloholic

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While the food is a crazy price the buy buy buy is typical of a theme park today. I sometimes think nostalgia and even sites like this work against us. The price increases are so well documented, our memories vivid of what we ate and paid! I am planning a ski trip to Vail...prices are insane there too, restaurants expensive and I am sure I'd I cross checked it with 15 years ago I would see much different prices.
 
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NickMaio

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And this is a bad thing?? I mean they have one of a kind items but they also have regular tee shirts. And I disagree, I remember Main street the crystal store always had that elaborate crystal Cinderella's castle that one could plunk down a couple thousand bucks for.

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Something like this. Always wondered who brought something like this. Lol wonder if I can get this as a carry-on. 😄

Now I would totally agree if the only thing they sold was 5000 dollar bags but world of Disney definitely still sells the usual suspects and please don't say that a "middle class" family has no where to shop at Disney springs

The operative word is in SOME stores. Lol most business actually like folks who have money, that's generally a good thing.
Oh I never said they have nowhere to shop.
I said that WDW has their eye on bringing in wealthier people.
WdW Springs is full of high end shops. Where in the past it was not as much.
 

Minnesota disney fan

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And this is a bad thing?? I mean they have one of a kind items but they also have regular tee shirts. And I disagree, I remember Main street the crystal store always had that elaborate crystal Cinderella's castle that one could plunk down a couple thousand bucks for.

View attachment 420340

Something like this. Always wondered who brought something like this. Lol wonder if I can get this as a carry-on. 😄

Now I would totally agree if the only thing they sold was 5000 dollar bags but world of Disney definitely still sells the usual suspects and please don't say that a "middle class" family has no where to shop at Disney springs

The operative word is in SOME stores. Lol most business actually like folks who have money, that's generally a good thing.


I have a totally different take on Disney displaying the uber expensive Castle. I believe it is almost an "attraction" in itself. I know that we always check it out when we are shopping. It is so amazingly beautiful! I'm sure if someone wanted to shell out that ridiculous amount of money for a castle, then Disney would gladly take it :) But I think it is a draw for people to come in and see it and maybe buy something while in there.
 

VaderTron

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We skirt the issue by calling it "Greek chili" to out of owners.
Funny thing is that "real" chili is actually pretty close to that Cincinnati style. If you enter a chili competition you can't have any beans or fillers in the chili. Just meat, seasonings, and optional items like onion, garlic, tomato sauce, and beef/chicken stock. (That's why I say close. They use a wet cracker meal thickener for the Cincinnati style chili.)
 
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LondonGopher

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I have a totally different take on Disney displaying the uber expensive Castle. I believe it is almost an "attraction" in itself. I know that we always check it out when we are shopping. It is so amazingly beautiful! I'm sure if someone wanted to shell out that ridiculous amount of money for a castle, then Disney would gladly take it :) But I think it is a draw for people to come in and see it and maybe buy something while in there.

You are dead right.

One of my husband's nieces worked at a Louis Vuitton shop in Paris. They sell SHEDLOADS of things like key fobs and tiny card cases and wallets.

People come in to gawp at the mega-pricey bags (few of which are sold) - and then buy 50 key fobs (That cost LV 2 to make).

It's the same with the crystal castle.

"Well...we won't get THAT...but we'll get this little crystal Olaf instead. He's an absolute snip at $150."
 

Goofyernmost

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Its gone up a few bucks:

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Is there anyway to find out just how many of those have been sold over the years?
You are dead right.

One of my husband's nieces worked at a Louis Vuitton shop in Paris. They sell SHEDLOADS of things like key fobs and tiny card cases and wallets.

People come in to gawp at the mega-pricey bags (few of which are sold) - and then buy 50 key fobs (That cost LV 2 to make).

It's the same with the crystal castle.

"Well...we won't get THAT...but we'll get this little crystal Olaf instead. He's an absolute snip at $150."
I just had to buy a key fob for my car from a dealer. No one else had the software to actually program it. The cost was $400.00. That was $280. for the physical fob itself and $120. to program it. Made me appreciate the good old days of using a key. If you lost one all you had to do was go to a hardware store and have a new one made for about $2.00.
 

RustySpork

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I just had to buy a key fob for my car from a dealer. No one else had the software to actually program it. The cost was $400.00. That was $280. for the physical fob itself and $120. to program it. Made me appreciate the good old days of using a key. If you lost one all you had to do was go to a hardware store and have a new one made for about $2.00.

Yep, and anyone else could start it with a rock and a screwdriver (or with creative re-wiring). They didn't even need $25 in parts to demodulate and relay the fob signal. :joyfull:
 

21stamps

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Kings Island offers a meal deal of entree, side and drink for $14.99. They also offer an "all day dining" option for $29.99. You can order a meal every 90 minutes all day long.

Or, you can leave the park and walk to your car (10 minutes) and drive to a Chipotle, Taco Bell, Outback, Buffalo Wings and Rings, McDonalds, Wendy's, Popeyes, Viva Tequila Tacos and Bar, El Rancho Nuevo, Dairy Queen, Jimmy Johns, Ruby Tuesday plus sushi, chili, pizza, subs, "diners", etc. all a mile down the road. If you run through the drive-thru you could have your food and be back at the park for a total trip time of 30-40 minutes.

It's not quite the same when you are in the MK. To leave you have to wait for a boat/monorail to get to the parking lot, (10 min) then a tram to your car (5-10 min), then drive at least 15 minutes to the nearest non-Disney restaurant off property. We are talking an hour to two hours (depending on restaurant) if you want to leave and come back. So, Disney's food prices are a little harder to navigate around.

How many people are leaving KI to go eat? I don’t even leave Great Wold Lodge to drive to a fast food restaurant, we eat there, because- convenience... and we pay more for it.

How much is a cheese coney at kings island? And how much is a cheese coney down the street at a skyline outside of the park?
I assure you, the prices are vastly different.
No one expects them to be the same. Skyline locations are always busy at the park, so it doesn’t look like too many people choose to venture out.

How much is a bottle of water at KI? $3.99? And how much is a bottle of water at the gas station across the street?
Do you really think most guests are leaving the parking lot to go to pick up a drink at said gas station?

People who expect Disney food/drinks to match outside-of-disney food/drinks are just unrealistic from the beginning.

Also, regarding the ‘all day dining’. Yes, you could eat every 90 minutes at specific locations and the specific ‘dining plan’ meals.. most don’t. Most people eat 2 meals. Cedar Fair is counting on that.lol.

I typically spend more ‘incidental’ money at a Cedar Fair park than I do at a Disney park. Why? Because we like the additional-cost rides, and my kid likes to play games.. and we love the ice cream and funnel cakes and food trucks when applicable (none of which are included in any pre purchased dining option)... I don’t have games in my face at Disney... and I don’t have to pay additional money for certain rides, I don’t have to buy a Fast Lane Plus Pass.

I was at Cedar Point last month, our Fast Lane Plus alone was more than park admission to Disney, our hotel was similarly priced to the lower end deluxe resorts., and the restaurant choices at our hotel were horrible. Disney is a better value in that aspect.. but, I have different reasons for visiting each.

Last but not least- Cedar Fair parks do not allow outside food to be brought into their parks, Disney does. I take advantage of that while at Disney- a protein bar in my bag to eat when waiting in a line. Anyone could do that.
 
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21stamps

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If people were complaining about the cost of certain resorts at Disney- I would agree with you, wholeheartedly. Although I do understand why some of the resort prices have become obnoxious, it’s still annoying

But things like food or admission??
Come on.
Go to other amusement parks, then come back and say that Disney World admission and food value isn’t there.

Disclaimer- I have not been to a Six Flags since I was a child, my comparison is Cedar Fair parks, namely Kings Island and Cedar Point
 

Disneyhead'71

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If people were complaining about the cost of certain resorts at Disney- I would agree with you, wholeheartedly. Although I do understand why some of the resort prices have become obnoxious, it’s still annoying

But things like food or admission??
Come on.
Go to other amusement parks, then come back and say that Disney World admission and food value isn’t there.

Disclaimer- I have not been to a Six Flags since I was a child, my comparison is Cedar Fair parks, namely Kings Island and Cedar Point
A 2020 Cedar Point Gold Pass is $99. A 2020 WDW Platnium Pass Plus is $999.

A 2020 Cedar Fair Platnium Pass (that gets you in to all of the Cedar Fair parks) is $197.
 

RustySpork

Oscar Mayer Memer
A 2020 Cedar Point Gold Pass is $99. A 2020 WDW Platnium Pass Plus is $999.

A 2020 Cedar Fair Platnium Pass (that gets you in to all of the Cedar Fair parks) is $197.

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Shouldigo12

Well-Known Member
How many people are leaving KI to go eat? I don’t even leave Great Wold Lodge to drive to a fast food restaurant, we eat there, because- convenience... and we pay more for it.

How much is a cheese coney at kings island? And how much is a cheese coney down the street at a skyline outside of the park?
I assure you, the prices are vastly different.
No one expects them to be the same. Skyline locations are always busy at the park, so it doesn’t look like too many people choose to venture out.

How much is a bottle of water at KI? $3.99? And how much is a bottle of water at the gas station across the street?
Do you really think most guests are leaving the parking lot to go to pick up a drink at said gas station?

People who expect Disney food/drinks to match outside-of-disney food/drinks are just unrealistic from the beginning.

Also, regarding the ‘all day dining’. Yes, you could eat every 90 minutes at specific locations and the specific ‘dining plan’ meals.. most don’t. Most people eat 2 meals. Cedar Fair is counting on that.lol.

I typically spend more ‘incidental’ money at a Cedar Fair park than I do at a Disney park. Why? Because we like the additional-cost rides, and my kid likes to play games.. and we love the ice cream and funnel cakes and food trucks when applicable (none of which are included in any pre purchased dining option)... I don’t have games in my face at Disney... and I don’t have to pay additional money for certain rides, I don’t have to buy a Fast Lane Plus Pass.

I was at Cedar Point last month, our Fast Lane Plus alone was more than park admission to Disney, our hotel was similarly priced to the lower end deluxe resorts., and the restaurant choices at our hotel were horrible. Disney is a better value in that aspect.. but, I have different reasons for visiting each.

Last but not least- Cedar Fair parks do not allow outside food to be brought into their parks, Disney does. I take advantage of that while at Disney- a protein bar in my bag to eat when waiting in a line. Anyone could do that.
I mean, it's hard to give exact numbers, but I don't know anyone local who eats in the parks. The food is pretty much regular mall food court restaurants, or at least they were last time I went. In fact, now that I'm thinking about it, I've only ate one meal (not including snacks) in the park, and that was only because I was with a very large school group where we had some sort of discount. Every other time my family went to the McDonald right outside the park or packed a cooler we kept in the car. The actual meals (again, not counting snacks) were just not good enough to justify the price.
 

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