Too much money and not worth it..

parkerthebarker

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17 pages and counting!

I will say this. The prices are very high for anything, the customer service is hit or miss (I've ran into fantastic CM's, and some pretty terrible ones too, although it's taboo to say the latter). The ride quality and maintenance was a joke on a lot of the most prominent, "glorious" attractions. Food was generally pretty bad, but that could just be because I was a WDW noob and didn't know where to eat.

The magic is still there however. I love Disney parks with all my heart and a lot of people feel that way too. And the rude folk unfortunately are just a symptom of being with the general public.

This IP-ification of everything is a huge turn off for me though, more so in CA than FL. Ultimately it's still a great vacation spot, but the real question is for how much longer. There is no real value to be seen here as they continue to advertise / sell / re-skin for Marvel, SW, Frozen, etc etc, while also increasing the prices. I'm not 100% ready to give up on the parks, but Chappy is pretty darn close to throwing me off the edge.

Thanks for your insight. I think the park is magical. At the same time I think Disney is aiming to attract a wealthier park goer base to enjoy that magic though... I can't post links here, but copied and pasted an excerpt:

"Disney has also increasingly targeted people with more money to spend, with private tours, dinners with princesses, and the opening of a five-star Four Seasons resort. “They know that the money is in the upper level, the top 10 percent, the top 1 percent,” Niles says. “They’ve created a wide variety of new products to try and, frankly, extract more money out of the people who have money to spare.”

When Disney World opened, staying at the Bora Bora Bungalows cost $29 per night. Now it can cost as much as $3,400! Again, the strategy is paying off, though. In 2018, per capita spending in the parks increased by 5 percent and the revenue per hotel room went up by 8 percent.

But is that what the man who dreamed up Mickey Mouse would have wanted?

“If Walt [Disney] were alive today, he would probably be uncomfortable with the prices they’re charging right now,” Scott Smith, an assistant professor of hospitality at the University of South Carolina, who worked as a cast member in Disney’s Haunted Mansion, tells the Washington Post. “They’ve priced middle-class families out.”"
 

parkerthebarker

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I was overwhelmed at the planning stage- you got farther than I did.
It's information overload, so that's totally understandable. I just kept it simple. Said no to all the add ons, did fast passes for the stuff with really long lines, made 2 dinner reservations, and left lots of room for rest and free play. We did MK 2 days and Hollywood Studios another day.
 

larryz

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larryz

I'm Just A Tourist!
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Even if that were true, and the wayback machine took him back to when Disney World opened, I doubt he would find the bungalows. :hilarious:
Maybe in that timeline, the bungalows were built first... this is Marvel, so anything's possible. Even bringing people back from the dead because "quantums."
 

parkerthebarker

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Uh, no. Not sure I would be reading much more of that after this little gem.
I agree that is a ridiculous thing to point out- not really a fair comparison. But recently Disney has increased prices at a higher percentage than they typically do. Go to businessinsider.com, they had a great article on it. They also mention Disney shows no signs of slowing down, so as long as people pay these crazy prices (and not really flinching), they will just keep doing it.
 

NickMaio

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Thanks for your insight. I think the park is magical. At the same time I think Disney is aiming to attract a wealthier park goer base to enjoy that magic though... I can't post links here, but copied and pasted an excerpt:

"Disney has also increasingly targeted people with more money to spend, with private tours, dinners with princesses, and the opening of a five-star Four Seasons resort. “They know that the money is in the upper level, the top 10 percent, the top 1 percent,” Niles says. “They’ve created a wide variety of new products to try and, frankly, extract more money out of the people who have money to spare.”

When Disney World opened, staying at the Bora Bora Bungalows cost $29 per night. Now it can cost as much as $3,400! Again, the strategy is paying off, though. In 2018, per capita spending in the parks increased by 5 percent and the revenue per hotel room went up by 8 percent.

But is that what the man who dreamed up Mickey Mouse would have wanted?

“If Walt [Disney] were alive today, he would probably be uncomfortable with the prices they’re charging right now,” Scott Smith, an assistant professor of hospitality at the University of South Carolina, who worked as a cast member in Disney’s Haunted Mansion, tells the Washington Post. “They’ve priced middle-class families out.”"
Bingo......
Just look the stores in Disney Springs, many high end. Sadly the middle income family of 4 is not enough for WDW anymore.
Upsell....upsell...upsell.
It's too bad.
This demographic put Disney on the map......
 

epcotisbest

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Maybe in that timeline, the bungalows were built first... this is Marvel, so anything's possible. Even bringing people back from the dead because "quantums."

If you go back in time to change something, then that thing either no longer exists as it was, or does now exist, so there would be no need to go back in time in the first place. Now I'm getting a headache.
 
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parkerthebarker

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Bingo......
Just look the stores in Disney Springs, many high end. Sadly the middle income family of 4 is not enough for WDW anymore.
Upsell....upsell...upsell.
It's too bad.
This demographic put Disney on the map......
I thought the same thing when we went. Didn't Disney Springs replace the Disney boardwalk? I remembered the boardwalk being much more "laid back".
 

epcotisbest

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I agree that is a ridiculous thing to point out- not really a fair comparison. But recently Disney has increased prices at a higher percentage than they typically do. Go to businessinsider.com, they had a great article on it. They also mention Disney shows no signs of slowing down, so as long as people pay these crazy prices (and not really flinching), they will just keep doing it.

My point was no one ever stayed in the Bora Bora Bungalows for $29 and certainly not when Disney World first opened, as the bungalows did not even open until 2015.
 

parkerthebarker

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My point was no one ever stayed in the Bora Bora Bungalows for $29 and certainly not when Disney World first opened, as the bungalows did not even open until 2015.
Okay. Point taken. I don't even know what the bungalows are haha. The point of what I'm saying is- the price surges are crazy. And it's becoming less and less tangible for middle class families to plan vacations at Disney.
 

DisneyJoe

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Agghh. Wish I had known that. Someone told me it was replaced by Disney Springs when we were planning our trip.
Downtown Disney was replaced by Disney Springs.

Disney's Boardwalk Inn (and the boardwalk entertainment area just outside of it) is on Crescent Lake near the other Epcot Area resorts, across from the Yacht and Beach Club and near the Swan and Dolphin resorts.
 

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