Too much money and not worth it..

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BeentoallDParks

Active Member
George said:
I dunno. I think that's very dependent on location. Artist Point had gone down hill before the character addition and has not yet risen to its previous levels. Liberty Tree Tavern has gone up and down over the years.
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Yep. The assertion that Disney food has gotten better and if you used to like it more, it’s because you were too young to know better? Not very nuanced. And not borne out by facts. Remember a few years back when WDW got spanked in the press for downgrading the quality of the meat in the hot dogs at Casey’s? Disney food has been going down and there’s a paper trail to prove it.
 
CaptainAmerica

CaptainAmerica

Premium Member
parkerthebarker said:
Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha. I could keep going. Every kid is different. We are a very laid back family. We were leisurely with our approach. If heaven forbid, we didn't ride "it's a small world" or get front row spots for a parade, it didn't faze us. We very much fine tuned our approach to ensure happy kids. Our oldest is very sensitive and was overstimulated by everything, regardless. She never throws tantrums, but boy did she on our trip. Afterwards she apologized, and we had an open talk about it all. She said it was too busy and crowded. I know she isn't the only kid feeling that way... even if you are "super parents" and plan your trip perfectly. Sigh.
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Sounds like you should have taken naps or midday swims in the pool, something to get them out of the park atmosphere. There's no "perfect itinerary" that applies to every family, but there's a perfect itinerary for EACH family.
 
parkerthebarker

parkerthebarker

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Original Poster
CaptainAmerica said:
Sounds like you should have taken naps or midday swims in the pool, something to get them out of the park atmosphere. There's no "perfect itinerary" that applies to every family, but there's a perfect itinerary for EACH family.
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Laughing. I love internet know it alls.

Our oldest napped, and we went to the pool. Let both kids sleep until they woke up in the am. We were laid back with the itinerary. They had numerous snacks. Had a double stroller for shade and rest. Those were all things in our control. And we checked every box. Out of our control: tons of people, noise, heat. And if a child is easily over stimulated: boom.

I shouldn't have to defend my parenting or child's reaction to the intensity of the park, but here we are. At the end of the trip she communicated how she felt about the park. She said she much preferred our trip to Crested Butte this summer, where we did the Wildflower Festival. Everyone's psyche's are built different. Disney was not for her, and judging from a lot of the young kids in the park it probably isn't for them either.

To your behavior comment "Kids behave that way when their parents let them". Woof. She reacted the way she did because she is highly sensitive. Not because she wanted ice cream or some princess doll. She is naturally a rule follower and a people pleaser. She was devastated after her tantrum and profusely apologized, without us even asking. We don't have to use a power game with her by "not letting her". We use open communication.... and it has worked. But thanks for your advice, really. Next time I have a parenting struggle I'll remember that Captain America has 3 kids and never lets his kids slip up. (lol)
 
Bigcityblues

Bigcityblues

New Member
parkerthebarker said:
Laughing. I love internet know it alls.

Our oldest napped, and we went to the pool. Let both kids sleep until they woke up in the am. We were laid back with the itinerary. They had numerous snacks. Had a double stroller for shade and rest. Those were all things in our control. And we checked every box. Out of our control: tons of people, noise, heat. And if a child is easily over stimulated: boom.

I shouldn't have to defend my parenting or child's reaction to the intensity of the park, but here we are. At the end of the trip she communicated how she felt about the park. She said she much preferred our trip to Crested Butte this summer, where we did the Wildflower Festival. Everyone's psyche's are built different. Disney was not for her, and judging from a lot of the young kids in the park it probably isn't for them either.

To your behavior comment "Kids behave that way when their parents let them". Woof. She reacted the way she did because she is highly sensitive. Not because she wanted ice cream or some princess doll. She is naturally a rule follower and a people pleaser. She was devastated after her tantrum and profusely apologized, without us even asking. We don't have to use a power game with her by "not letting her". We use open communication.... and it has worked. But thanks for your advice, really. Next time I have a parenting struggle I'll remember that Captain America has 3 kids and never lets his kids slip up. (lol)
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Amen.
 
CaptainAmerica

CaptainAmerica

Premium Member
parkerthebarker said:
Laughing. I love internet know it alls.

Our oldest napped, and we went to the pool. Let both kids sleep until they woke up in the am. We were laid back with the itinerary. They had numerous snacks. Had a double stroller for shade and rest. Those were all things in our control. And we checked every box. Out of our control: tons of people, noise, heat. And if a child is easily over stimulated: boom.

I shouldn't have to defend my parenting or child's reaction to the intensity of the park, but here we are. At the end of the trip she communicated how she felt about the park. She said she much preferred our trip to Crested Butte this summer, where we did the Wildflower Festival. Everyone's psyche's are built different. Disney was not for her, and judging from a lot of the young kids in the park it probably isn't for them either.

To your behavior comment "Kids behave that way when their parents let them". Woof. She reacted the way she did because she is highly sensitive. Not because she wanted ice cream or some princess doll. She is naturally a rule follower and a people pleaser. She was devastated after her tantrum and profusely apologized, without us even asking. We don't have to use a power game with her by "not letting her". We use open communication.... and it has worked. But thanks for your advice, really. Next time I have a parenting struggle I'll remember that Captain America has 3 kids and never lets his kids slip up. (lol)
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RustySpork

RustySpork

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parkerthebarker said:
lol. this discussion is so fluid. One minute dissecting calorie content at Applebee's....the next is condescending "advice" about how irresponsible it is to"let" your child have a moment in DW.
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Welcome to the internet. Where I'm always better and more intelligent than you, and regardless of what you say or don't say I'm going to make assumptions and cast my judgement upon you. :joyfull:

If you like Applebees though, we can't be friends. :hilarious:
 
parkerthebarker

parkerthebarker

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Original Poster
RustySpork said:
Welcome to the internet. Where I'm always better and more intelligent than you, and regardless of what you say or don't say I'm going to make assumptions and cast my judgement upon you. :joyfull:

If you like Applebees though, we can't be friends. :hilarious:
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Yessss exactly.

God, an extended family member gives me 25$ gift cards to Applebee's every year for Christmas. I always bring them to a White Elephant party- it's the most dreaded take away :)
 
Shouldigo12

Shouldigo12

Well-Known Member
RustySpork said:
Welcome to the internet. Where I'm always better and more intelligent than you, and regardless of what you say or don't say I'm going to make assumptions and cast my judgement upon you. :joyfull:

If you like Applebees though, we can't be friends. :hilarious:
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Trust me, I'm no fan of Applebee's. The best thing they have to eat there are the napkins.
 
Model3 McQueen

Model3 McQueen

Well-Known Member
In the Parks
No
parkerthebarker said:
Very unpopular opinion I know.

I have been to the park several times growing up, and twice as an adult. This past trip was my first time experiencing it as a family.

We stayed at a resort, planned fast passes, rode on all the rides we wanted to. Everyone told us the food was overpriced, but we were still utterly shocked. It's offensive that Disney charges what they do for low quality subpar food. We navigated the trip with a budget in mind. Skipped the frivolous (obnoxiously prices add ons) like the princess makeup makeover, park hopper option, mickeys halloween parade, souvenirs. Our total before flights was $1700- 5 nights at a resort and 3 days in the park, not including food. I understand that may be cheap compared to what others spend...

The "buy buy buy" mentality is so in your face. And people everywhere fall into the traps. My jaw dropped when people buzz around these gift stores, spending ungodly amounts of cash on Disney merchandise. And for what?! Also, some people love the customer service...I honestly just felt bad for the workers. It was a forced happy, and the stuff they have to deal with is crazy. I came across some of the rudest, most entitled people in the park. When a family would bump into others and say "I'm so sorry" or tell their kids "be aware of your surroundings!" it was so refreshing.. but rare.

And don't get me wrong- I love Disney movies, music etc. Its total nostalgia for me. But I found it too overstimulating and a lot of work, as did our oldest.
Hitting the pause button on Disney for a very long time!

Has anyone else experienced anything similar? Also, do you go every year or mix in trips to other places? And how much do you spend on average (all in)? Curiosity has gotten the best of me.
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17 pages and counting!

I will say this. The prices are very high for anything, the customer service is hit or miss (I've ran into fantastic CM's, and some pretty terrible ones too, although it's taboo to say the latter). The ride quality and maintenance was a joke on a lot of the most prominent, "glorious" attractions. Food was generally pretty bad, but that could just be because I was a WDW noob and didn't know where to eat.

The magic is still there however. I love Disney parks with all my heart and a lot of people feel that way too. And the rude folk unfortunately are just a symptom of being with the general public.

This IP-ification of everything is a huge turn off for me though, more so in CA than FL. Ultimately it's still a great vacation spot, but the real question is for how much longer. There is no real value to be seen here as they continue to advertise / sell / re-skin for Marvel, SW, Frozen, etc etc, while also increasing the prices. I'm not 100% ready to give up on the parks, but Chappy is pretty darn close to throwing me off the edge.
 

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