News Tomorrowland Speedway and Walt Disney World Railroad to be impacted by TRON construction at the Magic Kingdom

[spacemtnfanatic]

Or... make Fantasyland Station a must-exit for everyone.

That only puts the CM running the train at risk, which would still require OSHA safety requirements. But hey, it's no big deal if the train gets a lot of scrapes and bang-ups, right?

Because the safety of the CM < the safety of the paying guests. Oh wait, this is WDW, that is accurate. Carry on.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

Because the safety of the CM < the safety of the paying guests. Oh wait, this is WDW, that is accurate. Carry on.

There is no safety issue! Paying guests ride the train daily in a reverse move for the shop tour.

 

[TiggersPooh]

There is no safety issue! Paying guests ride the train daily in a reverse move for the shop tour.

Tour suspended in November.

 

[DisAl]

There is no safety issue! Paying guests ride the train daily in a reverse move for the shop tour.

Yes, they do.
BUT that is a short run, low speed, no curves, and no grade.
One other complication in running in reverse is that the locomotives on the WDWRR have no brakes. All the brakes are on the passenger cars. When going forward and brakes are applied the locomotive is PULLING against the couplers, not pushing. The heavy locomotive and tender pushing the couplings is much more likely to cause problems that pulling against them.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

Yes, they do.
BUT that is a short run, low speed, no curves, and no grade.
One other complication in running in reverse is that the locomotives on the WDWRR have no brakes. All the brakes are on the passenger cars. When going forward and brakes are applied the locomotive is PULLING against the couplers, not pushing. The heavy locomotive and tender pushing the couplings is much more likely to cause problems that pulling against them.

I give up... you guys think you are experts. I’ve worked professionally as a conductor on a steam train. I directed shove moves around curves and on a slight grade every single day with passengers on board. With a steam locomotive.

Again.... it’s a logistic issue, I’m not faulting Disney as it would be a strange operation. But safety wise and operation wise it’s possible.

 

[peter11435]

I give up... you guys think you are experts. I’ve worked professionally as a conductor on a steam train. I directed shove moves around curves and on a slight grade every single day with passengers on board. With a steam locomotive.

Again.... it’s a logistic issue, I’m not faulting Disney as it would be a strange operation. But safety wise and operation wise it’s possible.

It’s possible. However current Disney won’t do it. Partially logistics and partially safety. Yes, Disney does it for the tour. But they would never allow it for standard operation due to safety concerns. There’s many things that can be and are done in the real world that Disney does not allow.

 

[EricsBiscuit]

Yes, they do.
BUT that is a short run, low speed, no curves, and no grade.
One other complication in running in reverse is that the locomotives on the WDWRR have no brakes. All the brakes are on the passenger cars. When going forward and brakes are applied the locomotive is PULLING against the couplers, not pushing. The heavy locomotive and tender pushing the couplings is much more likely to cause problems that pulling against them.

When they were building Splash Mountain the WDWRR ran between Main Street USA and Mickeys Birthdayland, going forwards and backwards.

 

[peter11435]

When they were building Splash Mountain the WDWRR ran between Main Street USA and Mickeys Birthdayland, going forwards and backwards.

That was a long time ago. A lot of things about how the company operates and views risk has changed since then. Specifically that was nearly 20 years before 2009.

 

[EricsBiscuit]

That was a long time ago. A lot of things about how the company operates and views risk has changed since then. Specifically that was nearly 20 years before 2009.

I still don’t see any issues with it. If they’re concerned about safety, then don’t take guests when they go backwards. It halves the capacity but at least we’d still have the steam trains.

 

[EricsBiscuit]

Speaking of railroads, any update on DLPRR?

 

[lazyboy97o]

I still don’t see any issues with it. If they’re concerned about safety, then don’t take guests when they go backwards. It halves the capacity but at least we’d still have the steam trains.

It was not a guest who was killed on 2009.

 

[EricsBiscuit]

It was not a guest who was killed on 2009.

What happened? The only person I’m aware of that was killed by a railroad at WDW was a little girl by the FWRR.

 

[lazyboy97o]

What happened? The only person I’m aware of that was killed by a railroad at WDW was a little girl by the FWRR.

Monorail Pink reversed into Monorail Purple killing Pilot Austin Wuennenberg.

 

[EricsBiscuit]

Monorail Pink reversed into Monorail Purple killing Pilot Austin Wuennenberg.

Oh. I thought we were talking about an incident on the railroad. That example, while tragic, doesn’t mean the railroad can’t go forwards and backwards as only one train would be operating at a time between MSUSA and Toontown.

 

[lazyboy97o]

Oh. I thought we were talking about an incident on the railroad. That example, while tragic, doesn’t mean the railroad can’t go forwards and backwards as only one train would be operating at a time between MSUSA and Toontown.

It does because it caused a change in safety policies beyond just the monorails.

 

[marni1971]

Speaking of railroads, any update on DLPRR?

Opening end of this month IIRC (hoorah)

 

[cjkeating]

Opening end of this month IIRC (hoorah)

Unfortunately 1st April (unsure if DLP are trolling us and it is an April Fools).

 

[peter11435]

Oh. I thought we were talking about an incident on the railroad. That example, while tragic, doesn’t mean the railroad can’t go forwards and backwards as only one train would be operating at a time between MSUSA and Toontown.

That’s just not how disney works. Incidents like those spark changes everywhere remotely possible even if seemingly unrelated.

 

[marni1971]

Unfortunately 1st April (unsure if DLP are trolling us and it is an April Fools).

It’s slipped?

(although that date would be very useful!)

 

[EricsBiscuit]

It does because it caused a change in safety policies beyond just the monorails.

I understand that but the point is mute because only one train would be on the line. The monorails have multiple on the same line at any given time.