No need for an apology. I could care less what people think of other people, especially on an amusement park message board. I don't need to analyze and try to dissect the different psyches' of 350 million people in an attempt to try to understand why some people like or don't like crowded areas, or why some people like to decorate their lawns with pink flamingos while others think it's gaudy (me). Nothing against the OP, but I don't have time to read a 2000 word breakdown on why someone likes red paint over silver paint. I've lived long enough, had enough college, had enough work experience, had enough life experience to know what I like doesn't matter to the dude sitting next to me in my office. Matter of fact, I'm pretty sure all the people that you all work with could give two poops about you either. People fake their way through life, being faux cordial to one another, only to turn around and gossip about them 2 seconds later to their other "friend", who in turn, will do the same thing to them 2 seconds later. Once people realize this glaring fact, they end up being happier with themselves, and pretty much leave other people alone. And, in turn, end up actually being nice to others, because they no being mean/cruel/vengeful/etc. won't get them anywhere in life, other than back to the gossip wheel they were on before.
I come to these boards to see the other 'like minded' folk talk about the good/bad/ugly of Disney properties. To delve into some philosophical conversation is absolutely not necessary.
You and I are here to discuss "the good/bad/ugly of Disney properties" Everything else is completely irrelevant. I know when I see long, insightful posts by other members of forums, or hear a podcast with Disney park historians and Imagineers, I am thrilled. It is so fascinating that I take notes or even listen to them multiple times. I've been surfing Disney parks fan forums for over a decade, so when I see a different perspective or concrete knowledge, it is a breath of fresh air that breathes new life into a body of knowledge that, as vast as it is, is only as vast as the total of all guest's observations of the show and whatever background knowledge Disney OK's for release about the creation of those shows.
It is troubling that you would care so much about to good/bad/ugly of Disney parks, and then when somebody writes a long post or has a unique idea/perspective, rather than being thrilled to dig into a topic you love a little deeper, you get defensive and go on the offense. You shouldn't be taking offense to anything I'm saying and writing "TL;DR" every time you want to drop out of a conversation, one that you've driven off the rails, I might add. I completely understand why you would have misinterpreted my first post. I am glad you spoke up and gave me the opportunity to set the record straight. Without your initial reaction, I wouldn't have developed the ideas as clearly as I did. But at that point, you could have recognized that I was extending the olive branch and chosen to accept my apology or apologized yourself. You could have realized that I mean no harm and we could have continued the discussion at hand. You could have written a response that actually responded to some of the ideas I have raised. If you have differing opinions or observations or theories about why people still like tomorrowland given the universal agreement that it is the worst land in the park! Instead, you took my sincere apology and subjective analysis as another insult.
Philosophy, psychology, design, taste, culture; these are the biological and subjective/cultural mechanisms that human beings are equipped with when they interpret media. Media that either generates pleasure or doesn't. What I am talking about is the same stuff that Imagineers talk about! How to make things that are good, not bad or ugly, on Disney properties! How do they define good? How can somebody make a sound prediction that the stories being told or the environments being presented are going to be compelling, are going to be fun, are going to resonate with guests, elicit nostalgia and emotion, etc? It isn't by throwing poop at another creative in the room and screaming TL;DR. I am responding directly to the subject at hand when delving into "philosophy." Without "philosophy," this conversation would be like every single one that came before it, where fan boys and girls rattle off all of the IP's they want and don't want to see in the land, people get "creative" by inventing new rides for the land, which ironically are just a list of the extinct attractions (people mover, carousel of progress, Inner Space), and conversation goes little deeper than "I like this or I dislike that." Without "philosophy," Disney's parks and storytelling would not exist. If you love something so much, aren't you the least bit curious why, or why perhaps it is so successful and beloved by the entire planet?
The irony is that your statement about "what other people need to realize" and what you are on these forums to discuss both run completely counter to your conduct. I am not being vengeful, cruel, or mean; you just wish I was for some reason and are in fact the one doing that. I am here to discuss Disney parks. Are you? I haven't seen any evidence of that. Your rule is a very simple one to follow; unless you are posting about "the good/bad/ugly of Disney properties," don't post at all. I'm going to keep posting, and guess what? My commentary never has anything to do with you and you don't need to lash out.
