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[Lilofan]

Not if those things make money. The days of Walt or even Eisner where the CEO actually cares about the parks or cares about anything other than stock price is long gone.

If Eisner was so great why did Roy successfully get rid of him?

 

[Jrb1979]

If Eisner was so great why did Roy successfully get rid of him?

Cause like all CEOs they have an expiry date. Igers has expired years ago.

 

[LSLS]

If Eisner was so great why did Roy successfully get rid of him?

LOL, I don't know the history of Disney to know how Eisner was, but that is a statement. So, Phil Jackson was an awful coach since he was fired multiple times. Same with Scotty Bowman.

 

[Lilofan]

Cause like all CEOs they have an expiry date. Igers has expired years ago.

Board keeps getting him to come back, change his mind to leave etc no real expiry date with the Board and Bob two peas in a pod.

 

[JoeCamel]

LOL, I don't know the history of Disney to know how Eisner was, but that is a statement. So, Phil Jackson was an awful coach since he was fired multiple times. Same with Scotty Bowman.

Billy Martin......

 

[JoeCamel]

when you siphon off the Walt Disney companies wealth and not pay your employees fair wages, you can afford the best nutritionists and healthcare money can buy

That's why I play lotto on occasion, I hit that and I can hire Sven and Greta live ins to feed me and run me around the block on a regular basis as I seem incapable of doing that myself

 

[Comped]

I worked at the Disneyland resort for several years and I spoke with dozens of senior cast members who said Eisner would sometimes just come for dinner at the hotel or stop by the parks to say hi to employees whereas Iger and his Disneyland presidents never visited except for very scripted appearances or media events and would hightail it out of there.

Can confirm I've heard those stories about not just Eisner, but other execs of the era. Absolutely something they'd do, and that Eisner in particular liked to do. Unlike either of his successors, or, so I've heard, most park presidents.

 

[Robbiem]

Can confirm I've heard those stories about not just Eisner, but other execs of the era. Absolutely something they'd do, and that Eisner in particular liked to do. Unlike either of his successors, or, so I've heard, most park presidents.

I remember hearing a story that someone told Frank Wells the food was terrible at Disneyland so he visited repeatedly and ate at every place in the resort and made notes.

During the planning for Euro Disney Wells and Eisner along with some top imagineers spent a lot of weekends traveling to other parks and major attractions in Europe to check on the competition and plan for European tastes

I couldn’t see Iger doing that

 

[kenny279]

If Eisner was so great why did Roy successfully get rid of him?

He changed after Franks Wells died. Eisner during the period when Wells was COO was great. After that, he became obsessed with costs and value engineering.

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

Do you think that whoever replaces Iger as the CEO, even if they disagree with Iger's mindsets, will undo any of the things he did to the parks?

We can hope, honestly I still have slim hope Iger will undo some of the unpopular changes… whoever it is just needs to realize first they’ll make more money by offering a better product.

He changed after Franks Wells died. Eisner during the period when Wells was COO was great. After that, he became obsessed with costs and value engineering.

Yep, combined with how bad EuroDisney was doing he lost his nerve.

 

[Lilofan]

He changed after Franks Wells died. Eisner during the period when Wells was COO was great. After that, he became obsessed with costs and value engineering.

Under Eisner from 1984-94 Disney stock was up 8,000 %.

 

[TrainsOfDisney]

After that, he became obsessed with costs and value engineering.

Partially because of EuroDisney - they spent lots of money on that park and didn’t see it open to huge success - that made him nervous about other projects. Which is sad, we could have gotten some crazy cool things built!

 

[Vegas Disney Fan]

Partially because of EuroDisney - they spent lots of money on that park and didn’t see it open to huge success - that made him nervous about other projects. Which is sad, we could have gotten some crazy cool things built!

Epcot west immediately jumps to mind.

 

[SpectreJordan]

He changed after Franks Wells died. Eisner during the period when Wells was COO was great. After that, he became obsessed with costs and value engineering.

Yeah, this is pretty well documented. It was the two of them together that balanced each other out & lead to that amazing era of Disney.

 

[Comped]

I remember hearing a story that someone told Frank Wells the food was terrible at Disneyland so he visited repeatedly and ate at every place in the resort and made notes.

During the planning for Euro Disney Wells and Eisner along with some top imagineers spent a lot of weekends traveling to other parks and major attractions in Europe to check on the competition and plan for European tastes

I couldn’t see Iger doing that

A few execs have done the food thing over the years - Wells (and Eisner) were, far as I'm aware, the last. Certainly the last that I know of to enjoy the parks in their free time while working at such high levels.

He changed after Franks Wells died. Eisner during the period when Wells was COO was great. After that, he became obsessed with costs and value engineering.

The immediacy of the impact of Frank's death on Eisner is not something to be overstated - and it's something that many who worked with both of them have noted. It broke not just Eisner, but really the entire executive board who worked with him (and for those who did that time-frame is an extremely emotional subject). It certainly marked the transformation of Eisner's tenure as CEO, and for many the beginning of the end.

Epcot west immediately jumps to mind.

DisneyQuest being given the chance it needs to actually grow, DVC having more locations across the US and internationally, ESPNZone having more than a handful of locations, ClubDisney, Mickey's Kitchen, any of the dozen or more different regional proposals that are still stuck somewhere in the archives yet to be uncovered... And that is really just the start! The insane plans for DL's 2nd gate (most of which revolved around some excess assets at a secondary location part of the DL hotel deal) were just a small part really.

 

[Lilofan]

He changed after Franks Wells died. Eisner during the period when Wells was COO was great. After that, he became obsessed with costs and value engineering.

Actor Clint Eastwood age in his early 90s was one lucky guy. He went skiing with his friends including Frank Wells in 1994. Clint went in the first helicopter. Frank went in the second copter and crashed.

 

[Stumpos]

Not if those things make money. The days of Walt or even Eisner where the CEO actually cares about the parks or cares about anything other than stock price is long gone.

To be fair, how much did Eisner keep from what the likes of Card Walker/Donn Tatum from the 1970s and Ron Miller from 1980-84 did to the parks either?

 

[MaximumEd]

To be fair, how much did Eisner keep from what the likes of Card Walker/Donn Tatum from the 1970s and Ron Miller from 1980-84 did to the parks either?

I’m afraid I don’t understand the question.

 

[Stumpos]

I’m afraid I don’t understand the question.

I meant in response to asking if whoever succeeds Iger will undo his impact on the parks, I asked if Eisner undid everything the likes of Card Walker/Donn Tatum from the 1970s and Ron Miller from 1980-84 did to the parks?

 

[MaximumEd]

I meant in response to asking if whoever succeeds Iger will undo his impact on the parks, I asked if Eisner undid everything the likes of Card Walker/Donn Tatum from the 1970s and Ron Miller from 1980-84 did to the parks?

I don’t really know. The only reason I mentioned Eisner is because everything I’ve read indicated he was a fan of the parks. I don’t think Iger is, and I doubt whoever comes after will be.