Tom Staggs at WDW

WDITrent

WDITrent

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Wow. Ground is broken less than a year after Disney struck the deal with James Cameron. If this is true, this probably means either Iger has saved this project from budget cuts or they rushed to design the entire thing. I hope it's the former.
 
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Jim Handy

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Okay, guys, you're all killing me.

We have yet to see or hear anything legitimate that would indicate there was an actual ground breaking today.
 
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Jim Handy

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ChrisM

ChrisM

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Jim Handy said:
I have seen nothing that points to any ceremonial ground breaking at this point. No info has come my way. And you can bet the Parks Blog would have had a post.

If there were balloons at DAK today, depending on their location, it is possible parts or allof CMM were blocked.
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Since this is all coming from Kevin Yee's tweet regarding a quote alleged to be attributed to Rhode, it's pretty clear that Rhode wasn't speaking publically but to internal folks. The internal commencement of a project is obviously drastically different than a public one.

This is all assuming Yee's source is telling the truth, although I've never known Yee to be too much of a knee jerker when it comes to this sort of thing.
 
Taylor

Taylor

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ChrisM said:
Since this is all coming from Kevin Yee's tweet regarding a quote alleged to be attributed to Rhode, it's pretty clear that Rhode wasn't speaking publically but to internal folks. The internal commencement of a project is obviously drastically different than a public one.

This is all assuming Yee's source is telling the truth, although I've never known Yee to be too much of a knee jerker when it comes to this sort of thing.
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He said he trusts his source that said it
 
tirian

tirian

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COProgressFan said:
Interesting to hear this. I respect your knowledge and opinion on the boards, but does it really take a genius to see that 40 year old buildings in a Florida swamp need refurbishment? Or that quick service locations could use an improvement?
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It takes someone who insists on quality work rather than patching up what's there.

COProgressFan said:
I agree, it's certainly better than Rasulo, who almost had an outright disdain for the parks and their costumers, but it's definitely not real leadership or vision from the VP of Parks & Resorts, who runs the entire division and has the ability to make real changes.
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Bolded for truth. I'm not saying Staggs is perfect; I'm just saying he's been better than Rasulo. :)
 
jt04

jt04

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Vader2112 said:
Saw the same Tweet. Thought the same thing. Especially when they were not slated to even start work until 2013.
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Actually they announced late 2012. It is our local spin masters that have pushed out the date. Some sort of Jedi mind trick that seems to have worked on you.
 
jt04

jt04

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WDITrent said:
Wow. Ground is broken less than a year after Disney struck the deal with James Cameron. If this is true, this probably means either Iger has saved this project from budget cuts or they rushed to design the entire thing. I hope it's the former.
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Another victim of Jedi Mind Tricks. Neither of your takes is correct IMO.
 
ExtinctJenn

ExtinctJenn

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I would think that ground breaking on a project that got a lot of media attention like "Avatarland" (or Pandora - whatever) would come with similar amounts of media attention. I just can't see that if he was there to do the first "shovel" it wouldn't have been something that was big news. It'd be their way of stopping all the rumors that it isn't going to happen and it'd certainly spark even more attention to the project which is always a good thing.

Now that's not to say he wasn't there because of the project, he probably was. But it was probably more along the lines of final planning and viewing the area etc. to see how it'll all come together (hence the sightline balloons).
 
jt04

jt04

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ExtinctJenn said:
I would think that ground breaking on a project that got a lot of media attention like "Avatarland" (or Pandora - whatever) would come with similar amounts of media attention. I just can't see that if he was there to do the first "shovel" it wouldn't have been something that was big news. It'd be their way of stopping all the rumors that it isn't going to happen and it'd certainly spark even more attention to the project which is always a good thing.

Now that's not to say he wasn't there because of the project, he probably was. But it was probably more along the lines of final planning and viewing the area etc. to see how it'll all come together (hence the sightline balloons).
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I'd bet you will see the news "break" on the Disney blog within days or weeks. Similar to how they released the Cameron walk through of DAK. The way companies use social media is changing the game rapidly. The legacy media is too busy converting itself into an advocacy group to have taken notice. The times they are a changin'.
 
ExtinctJenn

ExtinctJenn

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jt04 said:
I'd bet you will see the news "break" on the Disney blog within days or weeks. Similar to how they released the Cameron walk through of DAK. The way companies use social media is changing the game rapidly. The legacy media is too busy converting itself into any advocacy group to have taken notice. The times they are a changin'.
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You may be right but I want to believe that now that the world knows about the expansion, there'd be press at the breaking ground event. :)
 
jt04

jt04

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ExtinctJenn said:
You may be right but I want to believe that now that the world knows about the expansion, there'd be press at the breaking ground event. :)
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Nope. For example there was no press at the grounbreaking of Potter 2.0 or Transformers or Antartica as far as I know. Just social media and bloggers and pundits.
 
ExtinctJenn

ExtinctJenn

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jt04 said:
Nope. For example there was no press at the grounbreaking of Potter 2.0 or Transformers or Antartica as far as I know. Just social media and bloggers and pundits.
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Right... What I mean is... those social media and bloggers and pundits etc. etc. (what I call press these days) would be at the ground breaking and, if the ground breaking indeed did just happen, one of those would've posted something by now. :)
 
jt04

jt04

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ExtinctJenn said:
Right... What I mean is... those social media and bloggers and pundits etc. etc. (what I call press these days) would be at the ground breaking and, if the ground breaking indeed did just happen, one of those would've posted something by now. :)
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It has shown up in at least three places I know of. Remember, if there was an event it was not only backstage but they had closed off the area so nobody could get any "over the fence" photos. Evidently it was a very controlled environment. So one of the "pundits" would have to be a true insider. It is not like it was something visible like the changes at Universal or Sea World.
 

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