ThemeParkTraveller
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FWIW, I counted at least 6 background characters in the finale scene.
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FWIW, I counted at least 6 background characters in the finale scene.
Mikomike12
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Where did you find the finale scene?
ThemeParkTraveller
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It was a shorter clip originally posted on Weibo, but it's edited with scenes out of order.
I think it is unnecessary to build a lite version of Frozen Journey in Hong Kong. Tokyo and Hong Kong are too close, many Japanese and Hong Kong people will visit each other's parks. It is meaningless for them to experience almost the same attractions in the two parks.
McMickeyWorld
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Wow! everything is very beautiful, it's like a lovely postcard. It feels more natural than the other endings.
SplashJacket
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Very interesting...
Obviously, the video is low quality, but that circular turntable looks absolutely seamless. Definitely some lighting tricks going on, but insanely impressive nonetheless. That's a cool ending. The scale of this ride is insane.
Obviously, the video is low quality, but that circular turntable looks absolutely seamless. Definitely some lighting tricks going on, but insanely impressive nonetheless. That's a cool ending. The scale of this ride is insane.
Consumer
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That ending is great. Dark rides live on atmosphere, which is exactly what the finale sells.
SplashJacket
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I think that's the only scene that could use anything, and really all it would take is one or two guards in the background.
I do think the do you want to build a snowman scene and for the first time in forever, scenes are unnecessary. I think I would prefer them to go straight from the trolls to the castle, or slot in a snowy outdoor do you want to build a snowman scene with exposition, that way there's no screen for that and they don't have to go inside in the subsequent 3 scenes that end in the coronation.
I honestly think they can replace
Scene 2 Snowman screen recap
Scene 3 Door scene
Scene 4 First time in forever
Scene 5 Coronation
without losing much, and perhaps allows for an earlier scene than the Trolls (like how there's Olaf in Orlando, but not Olaf)
or just having a really cool scene of them playing and building Olaf. I would axe those 4 animatronics (2 Anna, 2 Elsa) for 2 children with an Olaf formation effect.
Maybe swap the positions of the troll scene and the formation of Olaf so they can explain "here's how they were, now here's what happened)" with perhaps an Anna animatronic in the current Love is an Open door scene singing about how the gates are about to open up.
The issue then if you have an unexplained Han, but I would just not do a book report and cut him out entirely? He's not really a Villain in a traditional sense, he's a plot-based villain which isn't represented here and I don't necessarily think you need him.
I do think the do you want to build a snowman scene and for the first time in forever, scenes are unnecessary. I think I would prefer them to go straight from the trolls to the castle, or slot in a snowy outdoor do you want to build a snowman scene with exposition, that way there's no screen for that and they don't have to go inside in the subsequent 3 scenes that end in the coronation.
I honestly think they can replace
Scene 2 Snowman screen recap
Scene 3 Door scene
Scene 4 First time in forever
Scene 5 Coronation
without losing much, and perhaps allows for an earlier scene than the Trolls (like how there's Olaf in Orlando, but not Olaf)
or just having a really cool scene of them playing and building Olaf. I would axe those 4 animatronics (2 Anna, 2 Elsa) for 2 children with an Olaf formation effect.
Maybe swap the positions of the troll scene and the formation of Olaf so they can explain "here's how they were, now here's what happened)" with perhaps an Anna animatronic in the current Love is an Open door scene singing about how the gates are about to open up.
The issue then if you have an unexplained Han, but I would just not do a book report and cut him out entirely? He's not really a Villain in a traditional sense, he's a plot-based villain which isn't represented here and I don't necessarily think you need him.
SplashJacket
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If I was adapting this ride to Paris or HKDL
Scene 1: Trolls
Scene 2: Town with Elsa freezing
Scene 3: Olaf and Sven (No Anna or Kristoff)
Scene 4: Lifthill with Elsa
Scene 5: Let It Go with Rotation Back
Scene 6: Anna gets Frozen
Scene 7: Marshmellow throws down a forward drop
Scene 8: Frozen Boats with Elsa Unfreezing
Scene 9: Unfrozen Town Farewell
Scene 9.5 Olaf waving bye before unloading.
Overall, compared to FEA, this would add one major scene pre-lift, fix the bad ice castle scenes, and add one major scene post-drop.
HK's Frozen looks far improved over Epcot's, but regardless. This ride looks exceptional, especially the Anna freezing moment, Elsa lift hill, and Elsa freezing the town (top moments in any ride anywhere).
Those scenes honestly remind me of Jurrasic World River Adventure in Hollywood and Jurrasic World in Beijing, in the best way possible.
Scene 2: Town with Elsa freezing
Scene 3: Olaf and Sven (No Anna or Kristoff)
Scene 4: Lifthill with Elsa
Scene 5: Let It Go with Rotation Back
Scene 6: Anna gets Frozen
Scene 7: Marshmellow throws down a forward drop
Scene 8: Frozen Boats with Elsa Unfreezing
Scene 9: Unfrozen Town Farewell
Scene 9.5 Olaf waving bye before unloading.
Overall, compared to FEA, this would add one major scene pre-lift, fix the bad ice castle scenes, and add one major scene post-drop.
HK's Frozen looks far improved over Epcot's, but regardless. This ride looks exceptional, especially the Anna freezing moment, Elsa lift hill, and Elsa freezing the town (top moments in any ride anywhere).
Those scenes honestly remind me of Jurrasic World River Adventure in Hollywood and Jurrasic World in Beijing, in the best way possible.
This Frozen ride is a good ride from the few snippets shared, but there are some weird choices that is holding it back.
As many mentioned why a boat instead of sleigh which would have been the most obvious choice ? particularly when they already have a boat ride for Tangled (the latter of which made more sense)
Pacing wise, to Build a Snow Man, For First time in Forever & Love is Open Door scene all feel rushed and they could have given some of the unnecessarily long time spent on Let it Go to these three scenes instead.
It is also baffling OLC chose to copy FEA for the Let it Go climax ice castle scene when they could have reimagined it. The ice castle scene should have been in a large hall with tall ceilings and full walls of ice crystals for a sense of grandeur instead of a tiny room like FEA. At least FEA timed the climax 'Let it Go' chorus with the boat being sent backward by Elsa as a 'oomph' moment. But the Tokyo version took out that 'oomph' moment and timed it to the opening of transition doors instead - which just doesn't have the same impact as the boat flying backwards or Elsa doing a costume change like on stage shows. Last of all, there just isn't a truly 'wow' special effect during Let it Go. Even stage & Broadway versions of Frozen have managed to execute more advanced special effects for Let it Go despite this is a ride and had more potential for advanced tech (like the beast transformation scene in BaTB), which again also felt like a missed opportunity.
As many mentioned why a boat instead of sleigh which would have been the most obvious choice ? particularly when they already have a boat ride for Tangled (the latter of which made more sense)
Pacing wise, to Build a Snow Man, For First time in Forever & Love is Open Door scene all feel rushed and they could have given some of the unnecessarily long time spent on Let it Go to these three scenes instead.
It is also baffling OLC chose to copy FEA for the Let it Go climax ice castle scene when they could have reimagined it. The ice castle scene should have been in a large hall with tall ceilings and full walls of ice crystals for a sense of grandeur instead of a tiny room like FEA. At least FEA timed the climax 'Let it Go' chorus with the boat being sent backward by Elsa as a 'oomph' moment. But the Tokyo version took out that 'oomph' moment and timed it to the opening of transition doors instead - which just doesn't have the same impact as the boat flying backwards or Elsa doing a costume change like on stage shows. Last of all, there just isn't a truly 'wow' special effect during Let it Go. Even stage & Broadway versions of Frozen have managed to execute more advanced special effects for Let it Go despite this is a ride and had more potential for advanced tech (like the beast transformation scene in BaTB), which again also felt like a missed opportunity.
SplashJacket
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We still don't know how it goes from the backward drop to forward in the town scene. I would expect a really cool scene of Elsa thawing Anna and then the boat rotates to a forward position where we then have the town thawing/finale seen in that video
Bayou
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I think this ride has its flaws, but I think it matches/exeeds beauty and the beast (although i think this ride is done better overall) just because of its much larger scale. It’s spectacular, even though it’s pacing is weird at times. I know I’m being very speculative when I say this, but I feel like OLC really wanted let it go to be longer which is why the first three song feel rushed. Also, Are there any animatronics in Love is an Open Door?
McMickeyWorld
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Are there more spoilers from the Tangled ride or do we only have those two images?
britain
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It is admirable to try to make recapture the way Splash Mountain essentially took a Fantasyland dark ride book report and blew it up to terrific e-ticket proportions. But so far Tokyo’s BatB and now Frozen don’t quite succeed the same way.
They should have studied Paris’s Pirates more than Shanghai’s.
They should have studied Paris’s Pirates more than Shanghai’s.
the.dreamfinder
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OLC should have handed these out as a condition for riding the attractions.
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A few thoughts:
The scale and the animatronics for this ride are undoubtedly a step above Frozen Ever After. But the pacing just seems... off.
I think the "story" of FEA (summer snow day) works much better for the IP and in the context of a ride. In FEA, you can enjoy the scenes for what they are without having to know every beat of the film. I feel like it would be harder to enjoy this attraction if I hadn't seen Frozen.
But perhaps that's just the nature of a book report ride.
The scale and the animatronics for this ride are undoubtedly a step above Frozen Ever After. But the pacing just seems... off.
I think the "story" of FEA (summer snow day) works much better for the IP and in the context of a ride. In FEA, you can enjoy the scenes for what they are without having to know every beat of the film. I feel like it would be harder to enjoy this attraction if I hadn't seen Frozen.
But perhaps that's just the nature of a book report ride.
One of the things I think works well about Frozen Ever After is that the characters are speaking directly to us and including us in on the action.
Based on what I'm seeing, that doesn't seem to be the case here(?). I would definitely be interested to see/hear a translation.
Based on what I'm seeing, that doesn't seem to be the case here(?). I would definitely be interested to see/hear a translation.
Nland316
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My Review:
I think it is very clear to me, through watching the leaked POV, that the ride system noticeably adds to the overall experience — something that cannot be judged off of video.
I know this is true for every ride, but for some reason it just seemed to standout a bit more for me here.
I won’t lie — I finished the video feeling pretty underwhelmed. Don’t get me wrong.. the set pieces and animatronics are beautiful, and overall I would say the ride is actually extremely solid and well done.. But, it doesn’t scream E-Ticket to me or have any WOW moments that I was really looking for as a step up compared to FEA.
I do agree that a lot of the scenery and staging, despite being nice-looking, felt barren and not really well composed.
It doesn’t really come down to the number of animatronics or anything like that, it’s just that the show scenes didn’t feel alive and active — which I view as being more of a design flaw. I would argue that MMRR does a better job of filling in its space appropriately than this attraction does.
The attraction definitely suffers from similar issues to BATB. This just indicates more of a WDI problem in how they design their attractions — since we know budget isn’t of issue here at TDR.
Overall, everything’s definitely solid — just nothing that stands out as boundary pushing or next level. Can’t wait for higher quality POV’s to be available to get better looks!
I think it is very clear to me, through watching the leaked POV, that the ride system noticeably adds to the overall experience — something that cannot be judged off of video.
I know this is true for every ride, but for some reason it just seemed to standout a bit more for me here.
I won’t lie — I finished the video feeling pretty underwhelmed. Don’t get me wrong.. the set pieces and animatronics are beautiful, and overall I would say the ride is actually extremely solid and well done.. But, it doesn’t scream E-Ticket to me or have any WOW moments that I was really looking for as a step up compared to FEA.
I do agree that a lot of the scenery and staging, despite being nice-looking, felt barren and not really well composed.
It doesn’t really come down to the number of animatronics or anything like that, it’s just that the show scenes didn’t feel alive and active — which I view as being more of a design flaw. I would argue that MMRR does a better job of filling in its space appropriately than this attraction does.
The attraction definitely suffers from similar issues to BATB. This just indicates more of a WDI problem in how they design their attractions — since we know budget isn’t of issue here at TDR.
Overall, everything’s definitely solid — just nothing that stands out as boundary pushing or next level. Can’t wait for higher quality POV’s to be available to get better looks!