Tokyo Disneyland Resort Expansion

[yensidtlaw1969]

It wouldve worked if the ride started and ended in Ahtohallan. With the whole water and memory thing. We’d be passing by these memories. Nevertheless I think it looks great so far.

The ride is purportedly a "memory play", being told by the Trolls - but I think the Ahtohallan angle maybe could have worked better and offered some unique design opportunities here.

 

[mickEblu]

I’m not feeling this Tokyo version of the Frozen ride. Those WED guys were so great at throwing us into the story in a way where we felt we were really there or that it was happening to us. Not a passive frame for frame scene for scene retelling of the story. The difference between old school Fantasyland dark rides and the modern rides is the execution. They re all “book reports” to some extent

I’m still going with Hong Kong as the best version of this ride right now. Less is more here. The over use of screens to move the story forward in the Tokyo version doesn’t help. 12 Elsa animatronics and no exciting escape from the wolves? Just a Hans Betrayal on a screen? Lol. Frozen probably just isn’t good source material for a dark ride and yet soon we’ll have four around the world while IP like Aladdin has a spinner ride. The Wed guys also made such great use out of those intimate spaces and I always say it helps when dark rides are dark. A lot of newer ones aren’t dark enough.

In short it feels like we’re watching the movie on a ride vehicle and not on an adventure in Arendelle. This version kind of comes across as Soap Opera: The Ride.

 

[ThemeParkTraveller]

I’m not feeling this Tokyo version of the Frozen ride. Those WED guys were so great at throwing us into the story in a way where we felt we were really there or that it was happening to us. Not a passive frame for frame scene for scene retelling of the story. The difference between old school Fantasyland dark rides and the modern rides is the execution. They re all “book reports” to some extent

I’m still going with Hong Kong as the best version of this ride right now. Less is more here. The over use of screens to move the story forward in the Tokyo version doesn’t help. 12 Elsa animatronics and no exciting escape from the wolves? Just a Hans Betrayal on a screen? Lol. Frozen probably just isn’t good source material for a dark ride and yet soon we’ll have four around the world while IP like Aladdin has a spinner ride. The Wed guys also made such great use out of those intimate spaces and I always say it helps when dark rides are dark. A lot of newer ones aren’t dark enough.

In short it feels like we’re watching the movie on a ride vehicle and not on an adventure in Arendelle. This version kind of comes across as Soap Opera: The Ride.

I think it's fine if you prefer the story of the HKDL version, but I think the sheer scale of the Tokyo version will make it the clear winner for most people. The detail and size of the show scenes, the number of AAs, there being actual conflict and suspense, etc are all substantial improvements for me.

 

[peter11435]

I’m not feeling this Tokyo version of the Frozen ride. Those WED guys were so great at throwing us into the story in a way where we felt we were really there or that it was happening to us. Not a passive frame for frame scene for scene retelling of the story. The difference between old school Fantasyland dark rides and the modern rides is the execution. They re all “book reports” to some extent

I’m still going with Hong Kong as the best version of this ride right now. Less is more here. The over use of screens to move the story forward in the Tokyo version doesn’t help. 12 Elsa animatronics and no exciting escape from the wolves? Just a Hans Betrayal on a screen? Lol. Frozen probably just isn’t good source material for a dark ride and yet soon we’ll have four around the world while IP like Aladdin has a spinner ride. The Wed guys also made such great use out of those intimate spaces and I always say it helps when dark rides are dark. A lot of newer ones aren’t dark enough.

In short it feels like we’re watching the movie on a ride vehicle and not on an adventure in Arendelle. This version kind of comes across as Soap Opera: The Ride.

I think this is a bad take and will be considered as such by most. Remember you’re also basing your opinion on a relatively poor quality video of the incomplete ride.

 

[mickEblu]

I think this is a bad take and will be considered as such by most. Remember you’re also basing your opinion on a relatively poor quality video of the incomplete ride.

Agree to disagree.

 

[mickEblu]

I think it's fine if you prefer the story of the HKDL version, but I think the sheer scale of the Tokyo version will make it the clear winner for most people. The detail and size of the show scenes, the number of AAs, there being actual conflict and suspense, etc are all substantial improvements for me.

The version I saw cut off before the end. I didn’t see a whole lot of suspense other than the large icicles coming out of the ground which is probably the best part of the ride that I saw.

 

[peter11435]

Agree to disagree.

Lol. With that? My post was two sentences and neither were things you can disagree with. The first sentence was my opinion, the second sentence was a fact.

 

[IMDREW]

Funny to think that of all trackless rides, this being one wouldve made the most sense. Sliding through these scenes in a sleigh wouldve been great.

 

[Mikomike12]

Lol. With that? My post was two sentences and neither were things you can disagree with. The first sentence was my opinion, the second sentence was a fact.

Don't bother with that guy, he's like this in every thread. Just miserable about anything

 

[peter11435]

Don't bother with this guy, he's like this in every thread. Just miserable about anything

I know

 

[mickEblu]

Lol. With that?

Lol. I can’t disagree with your opinion of my take being a bad take?

 

[peter11435]

Lol. I can’t disagree with your opinion of my take being a bad take?

Seems kinda uselessly redundant don’t you think?

 

[mickEblu]

Seems kinda uselessly redundant don’t you think?

Nope. I posted an opinion, explained why I felt that way and backed it up with examples. All you I said was I posted a bad take. If you wanna talk about redundant.

 

[ThemeParkTraveller]

Funny to think that of all trackless rides, this being one wouldve made the most sense. Sliding through these scenes in a sleigh wouldve been great.

I believe this was the original plan back when they planned the smaller Scandinavian port instead of Fantasy Springs. It would have worked great for the outdoor scenes, but we probably would have lost the indoor castle scenes. But seeing what they did with "Something There" in Beauty and the Beast, I'd be concerned about extended scenes of the sleighs just spinning around in the snow with not much to look at.

 

[peter11435]

Nope. I posted an opinion, explained why I felt that way and backed it up with examples. All you I said was I posted a bad take. If you wanna talk about redundant.

Nothing I did was redundant.

You posted your opinion. I stated that I think it is a bad take. You said you disagreed which is obvious and unnecessarily redundant because it was your opinion I was claiming was a bad take in the first place. Of course you disagree.

 

[mickEblu]

Nothing I did was redundant.

You posted your opinion. I stated that I think it is a bad take. You said you disagreed which is obvious and unnecessarily redundant because it was your opinion I was claiming was a bad take in the first place. Of course you disagree.

I think your opinion of my opinion is useless unless you go into greater detail on why you disagree.

 

[SplashJacket]

Funny to think that of all trackless rides, this being one wouldve made the most sense. Sliding through these scenes in a sleigh wouldve been great.

Definitely agree.

I don’t even think the Boat ride is a bad choice for 75% of the ride.

Spoiler

It just doesn’t make sense in the castle scenes or coronation and looks very strange

 

[Bayou]

OLC is freaking out rn. Im surprised the video on insta wasn't already taken down.

 

[peter11435]

I think your opinion of my opinion is useless unless you go into greater detail on why you disagree.

As I said… you are basing your opinion on an incomplete poor quality video of the attraction.

 

[ThemeParkTraveller]

Definitely agree.

I don’t even think the Boat ride is a bad choice for 75% of the ride.

Spoiler

It just doesn’t make sense in the castle scenes or coronation and looks very strange

As @yensidtlaw1969 mentioned, the story is that the troll magic is manifesting the flashbacks around us. The ride starts in the forest on a river, and we supposedly continue down the river while these scenes play out beside the boat. It's a bit convoluted and doesn't make it look less odd, but that is the official story.