Tokyo Disneyland Resort Expansion

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J4546

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Homemade Imagineering said:
Replacing IASW in MK with Tangled is about the worst take I’ve ever heard.
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I said to relocate IaSW, not outright get rid of it. Also give it an area with that beautiful Mary Blaire aesthetic that is so lovely in DL. IaSW is shoehorned into an ugly building in fantasyland and would much better elsewhere imo. Id suggest either giving it the DisneyLand treatment and putting IaSW on the other side of the traintracks and redo the circus area (that is worst area in MK by far) with access via outdoor que that goes under train tracks you wanna go nuts make a pathway underneath like Toontown in DL. GIve it a cool entrance tunnel where you come out into a large mary blaire looking landscape with maybe those square tree ala paris and you get IaSW and a smaller ride and store as well, maybe some fun interactive magic band stuff and that would be a cool area imo.

But also there are MANY MANY more things that should be done before this would ever happen, which it wont.

anyways heres a quick mockup of first idea. retheme circus area with Mary Blaire stuff, paris square trees, and that area looks pretty cool imo.
 

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Homemade Imagineering

Homemade Imagineering

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J4546 said:
I said to relocate IaSW, not outright get rid of it. Also give it an area with that beautiful Mary Blaire aesthetic that is so lovely in DL. IaSW is shoehorned into an ugly building in fantasyland and would much better elsewhere imo. Id suggest either giving it the DisneyLand treatment and putting IaSW on the other side of the traintracks and redo the circus area (that is worst area in MK by far) with access via outdoor que that goes under train tracks you wanna go nuts make a pathway underneath like Toontown in DL. GIve it a cool entrance tunnel where you come out into a large mary blaire looking landscape with maybe those square tree ala paris and you get IaSW and a smaller ride and store as well, maybe some fun interactive magic band stuff and that would be a cool area imo.

But also there are MANY MANY more things that should be done before this would ever happen, which it wont.

anyways heres a quick mockup of first idea. retheme circus area with Mary Blaire stuff, paris square trees, and that area looks pretty cool imo.
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Yeah I can respect that, I am definitely in agreement the MK version is the weakest of them all, which is a shame considering it’s Disney’s most visited park. IASW deserves far more than it gets in WDW, but regardless of the relocation conversation, I have seen moronic influencers online advocating for the outright removal of the MK version for a clone of the Tangled attraction without any thought of relocation being an option. It’s concerning that “fans” of the parks actually believe completely gutting legacy attractions for clones is now a viable option. The disrespect towards Mary Blair if this ever did come to fruition is the absolute worst aspect of the notion, especially since their whole point is that it’s “not on par with DLR”. Okay? So what? Plus it. Don’t erase it from your most visited castle park
 
Surferboy567

Surferboy567

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Consumer said:
A small note that would greatly help this attraction is a longer build up to seeing Rapunzel's tower, particularly an "unveiling" scene. Much like how Flynn Rider discovers her tower, guests should pass through an gate of ivy and come out on the other side in her valley with the tower hidden up until that moment.

Other than that, yes, the ride definitely ought to have included Gothel and an "I've Got a Dream." It really needs those beats of "you are never leaving this tower; it's too dangerous," followed by "the best day ever," then the "ruffians, thugs" singing "I've Got a Dream," before we finally end at the Lantern festival.

It simply just needs more build up. It's a great attraction in many ways, and easily my favorite of the four, but it is a little too short.

Relatable.
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I think I like PP the most. PP may have a slight edge, I can’t put my finger on it it’s just very well done even if it’s screen based. All three are incredible attractions and I’d love to see them stateside.

EDIT: Every attraction in this land is done super well as I said before. I really like the small mini drops in the Frozen attraction as well as the very impressive scenes. Tangled as I said before is also super impressive.
 
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ThemeParkTraveller

ThemeParkTraveller

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Surferboy567 said:
I think I like PP the most. PP may have a slight edge, I can’t put my finger on it it’s just very well done even if it’s screen based. All three are incredible attractions and I’d love to see them stateside.

EDIT: Every attraction in this land is done super well as I said before. I really like the small mini drops in the Frozen attraction as well as the very impressive scenes. Tangled as I said before is also super impressive.
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The more I rewatch Peter Pan, the more I love it. I think what makes this ride more fun and engaging than Frozen or Rapunzel is that guests are directly involved in the story. We are not just passive observers, but rather we play a direct role in the outcome of the story.
 
tanc

tanc

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Maybe you can't compare OLC to domestic parks but man I'm so glad these rides exists. This gives me realization of what imagineering CAN do but aren't given the budget to. Making 3 home run attractions and the largest land expansion pretty much ever is still mind boggling to me.
 
Consumer

Consumer

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tanc said:
Maybe you can't compare OLC to domestic parks but man I'm so glad these rides exists. This gives me realization of what imagineering CAN do but aren't given the budget to. Making 3 home run attractions and the largest land expansion pretty much ever is still mind boggling to me.
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The largest land expansion ever and only getting 4 new attractions isn't exactly praise worthy.

Frankly, I still think the OLC should have gone with using this plot, Toon Town, and the nearby parking lots to create a third gate for TDR.
 
britain

britain

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I’m sorry but this is still so bizarre!

What is this, Six Flags’ flooded Monster Plantation?

I can’t get into your story when (via backwards waterfall) you remind me that I’m in a boat that doesn’t match the story!

The ride gets much better as it stays “outdoors”. Nice to see it has a few drops.
 
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WaltWiz1901

WaltWiz1901

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Homemade Imagineering said:
IASW deserves far more than it gets in WDW, but regardless of the relocation conversation, I have seen moronic influencers online advocating for the outright removal of the MK version for a clone of the Tangled attraction without any thought of relocation being an option. It’s concerning that “fans” of the parks actually believe completely gutting legacy attractions for clones is now a viable option. The disrespect towards Mary Blair if this ever did come to fruition is the absolute worst aspect of the notion, especially since their whole point is that it’s “not on par with DLR”. Okay? So what? Plus it. Don’t erase it from your most visited castle park
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This. Just, this

Emphasis on the bolded since it just seems flat-out hypocritical to say that, for example, Disney is losing their mojo or is in need of more capacity and then imply the best solution to either one is to simply duplicate (admittedly really well done) existing attractions. That's only going to help make the parks seem even more homogeneous without a clear identity to call all their own
 
Consumer

Consumer

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britain said:
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I’m sorry but this is still so bizarre!

What is this, Six Flags’ flooded Monster Plantation?

I can’t get into your story when (via backwards waterfall) you remind me that I’m in a boat that doesn’t match the story!

The ride gets much better as it stays “outdoors”. Nice to see it has a few drops.
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Glad to see this getting criticized. The staging for "The First Time in Forever" is absolutely gorgeous, but the scene simply doesn't work for the medium.
 
UNCgolf

UNCgolf

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Henry Mystic said:
Tokyo’s Frozen ride looks absolutely incredible.

Even comparing it to Hong Kong’s it’s still not even remotely comparable.
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I truly don't understand why people think Frozen looks incredible! Obviously plenty of people do, but I just don't see it at all.

It doesn't seem remotely comparable to the best Disney E tickets from a ride design standpoint (it absolutely has some nice tech, though). There are a couple of fantastic scenes, but it also has several bland scenes that add almost nothing except narrative context (which shouldn't be necessary).
 
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