To Much To Quickly?

[Lord_Vader]

I wonder what the makeup of guests that visit Downtown Disney is, ie on site resort guests, day visitors, locals etc.

We stayed on International Drive this time and were thinking/hoping there would be a direct bus from the theme parks to Downtown which wasn't the case. thought this was a bit strange, but I guess they've analysed it and think their current system is better and more cost efficient.

I do wonder how many people are put off going due to the non-direct bus though.

They don't have busses to the parks from DtD/DS because guests would park there and ride the bus to avoid parking fees.

 

[dstrawn9889]

They don't have busses to the parks from DtD/DS because guests would park there and ride the bus to avoid parking fees.

which you can still do BTW...
Its convoluted and adds at least a half hour to the journey, but can be done

 

[Lord_Vader]

which you can still do BTW...
Its convoluted and adds at least a half hour to the journey, but can be done

True, you can walk over to Saratoga Springs or take a bus to any resort then hop to a park but it usually adds quite a bit more time than a half hour and is much more complicated than simply paying the parking fee and riding a tram.

 

[danlb_2000]

How? Checking you are a resort guest to board a bus? If you are a resort guest then you would get a bus to your resort from DTD anyway.

If I wanted to go back to the parks from DTD, I wouldn't want to go to my resort first. I know this probably isn't something a lot of people would do, but personally I could see going to DTD for an early dinner then going back to the parks for one of the nighttime shows. Do the busses currently run from the parks to DTD? I actually think that direction would be more useful.

 

[dstrawn9889]

nope. have to go to a resort in between. saratoga or Po - R or FQ

 

[dstrawn9889]

personally i am in no hurry, so i like to take the boats to POR and catch my bus there

 

[PhotoDave219]

again, Disney doesn't give two rat turds who is in the Springs, as long as the rent checks cash... an even dozen starbucks? great! --- just pay Pauley

Gotta love those Goodfellas jokes.

 

[DisneyCane]

You think they are also paying a percentage of revenue?

Normal shopping centers usually have revenue share clauses in the lease (typically a percentage over a certain threshold). I'm sure that a destination center like this has those clauses.

 

[RSoxNo1]

So here is a question I have been thinking about, are they making Downtown Disney to large, to quickly? They are coming close to doubling the amount of stores and restaurants compared to when the project started. Is there enough demand for all this?

Never complain about Disney doing anything construction related "too quickly".

 

[lazyboy97o]

Never complain about Disney doing anything construction related "too quickly".

Disney's indecision combined with their desire to fast track Disney Springs has raised its own problems that will probably further discourage any attempts at moving quickly.

 

[articos]

There are more then 2-3 restaurant still to open. We already know of four, STK, The Hanger, Morimoto and the Edison, and there will be more in the Town Center.

There's also Blaze Pizza and more to come. I'd put Hangar more in the Trader Sam's category than the restaurant category, although it does have a menu.

 

[Stitchon]

The thing with this expansion that puzzles me is Quite a few of these "stores" have a second floor. Will that be for product storage, other retail, restaurants, or office / meeting space?

Stores like Zara and Uniqlo typically range 10,000 square feet or more. Considering the location, i'd expect both stores to spread out over two levels of space. I figure the rumored Apple store will likely be dual-leveled as well, similar to their store at The Grove in Los Angeles.

 

[1023]

I don't feel that this is entirely true. Yes, they want to rent pay check, but they also want stores that have staying power so they aren't constantly looking for replacements and ending up with boarded up stores even if it for the short term,

A lot of that depends on the lease structure. I can tell you that on my commercial investment properties, I'm perfectly happy to cycle someone quickly. I am however not privy to the structure of the leases for Disney Springs.

*1023*
P.S. Anyone else picture a bunch of slinkys or other types of springs laying around.

 

[s8film40]

Stores like Zara and Uniqlo typically range 10,000 square feet or more. Considering the location, i'd expect both stores to spread out over two levels of space. I figure the rumored Apple store will likely be dual-leveled as well, similar to their store at The Grove in Los Angeles.

Where is the rumor of an Apple store coming from? This is the first I've heard of it. Doesn't seem like it would be a good fit for DTD and I highly doubt Disney would be willing to meet the lower percentages of revenue sharing that Apple has been demanding lately.

 

[danlb_2000]

Where is the rumor of an Apple store coming from? This is the first I've heard of it. Doesn't seem like it would be a good fit for DTD and I highly doubt Disney would be willing to meet the lower percentages of revenue sharing that Apple has been demanding lately.

@wdwmagic has indicated that an Apple store will be coming to the Springs.

 

[s8film40]

@wdwmagic has indicated that an Apple store will be coming to the Springs.

Wow, I hope that's true! That would be much closer for me than the other Apple stores in my area. It would be surprising though as typically most malls are only willing to take Apple's very small cut due to the increased traffic it draws. Disney Springs is different from a traditional mall in that the Disney elements are really the big attendance driver. Kind of surprising they would feel the need to put out such a large amount of retail space just to draw more people to Disney Springs.

 

[lazyboy97o]

Wow, I hope that's true! That would be much closer for me than the other Apple stores in my area. It would be surprising though as typically most malls are only willing to take Apple's very small cut due to the increased traffic it draws. Disney Springs is different from a traditional mall in that the Disney elements are really the big attendance driver. Kind of surprising they would feel the need to put out such a large amount of retail space just to draw more people to Disney Springs.

It's a status symbol to have an Apple Store. Apple's demand for a lower cut is probably still sizable in terms of pure dollars. Why not take the percentage cut if it still means more money than another tenant at a higher percentage?

 

[s8film40]

It's a status symbol to have an Apple Store. Apple's demand for a lower cut is probably still sizable in terms of pure dollars. Why not take the percentage cut if it still means more money than another tenant at a higher percentage?

Yeah I agree, it's a great addition and ultimately worth it for Disney, It just surprises me that Disney would see it that way since they won't get as big of a benefit from it as a traditional mall would. Then again who knows this could have been planned for a while now and could very well be the reason they have signed so many new tenants lately.

 

[matt9112]

What the hell is the big deAL for Apple stores. I have never set foot in one and living in boston there are plenty. I even owned an iPhone once....still no desire. I wouldn't be caught dead buying a computer from apple so...but alas that's just my opinion.

 

[Jon81uk]

What the hell is the big deAL for Apple stores. I have never set foot in one and living in boston there are plenty. I even owned an iPhone once....still no desire. I wouldn't be caught dead buying a computer from apple so...but alas that's just my opinion.

One of the main reasons they are busy is that all the computers are connected to the Internet, so many people just treat it as a free internet cafe.