Just to stir the pot, so a person that orders a $25.00 steak should tip 10X the ammount that a person who orders a $2.50 salad should have to tip? Where is the logic in that? They both went to "steak place" and ordered a meal. Both took the waiter the same ammount of time to take the order, place the order, prob not even deliver the food, ask if everything is okay, and deliver the bill. Why should the customer be penalized if they order something more expensive? If each tips $2-3, and the waiter gets $4-6. Not a bad tip for a $27.50 bill. At $4 it's a little less than 15%, but not much. But $6 is a little more than 20%. Not a bad haul on a table. I tip by the dollar too. $1 at places like Souper Salad and Golden Corral, where they basically refill your drinks. $2 at standard eateries, Chili's, Fridays, Don Pablos. If we really splurge and go to Outback, $3 a person. So for the four of us it's $12 bucks on a bill that usually comes to $50. That's not bad. $2 a person isn't bad either. If the person is ordering a sandwich and a drink for a bill of $9, $2 is a great tip. Be nice folks. The $2 tipper is probably somebody that wouldn't pay $50 a plate, just like me. So chill. They are just saying that the server should be greatful for the tip, because they prob wouldn't get anything from them, because they might not eat there to begin with. I know Jiko would never be on our list if it wasn't for the DDP. With the DDP, part of what you are paying for is the tip. Maybe the poster was just saying that MORE PLACES SHOULD INCLUDE THE TIP WHEN YOU ORDER AND NOT SNEEK MORE CHARGES TO THE CONSUMER AND SC*** THEIR OWN STAFF! (sorry for the yelling)