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Tipping is this fair ?
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BrianV
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I disagree. It is legal to leave no tip. They will not call the police in the same way as if you skip paying your bill. They are not obligatory in that sense.
However, I agree it is not acceptable to leave no tip except in the case of truly awful service. And then you should still leave a tiny amount (some say one penny) so that they know you didn't forget, you chose to leave no tip. I think maybe once in my life I have experienced service deserving of no tip...
Weather_Lady
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I've never heard it given as a percentage -- around my neck of the woods we tip the bartender a dollar per drink, or two dollars if it's a complicated mixed drink or if the bartender has given us an especially generously-sized pour.
I think from a foreigners point of view it's vague and the reason they are accused of not leaving enough or any tip ! There is also a point that Disney restaurants are not your local restaurant, where you may visit many times and so a tip is important to the customer server relationship whereas at Disney you may never dine there again, with a non obligatory tip some would be encouraged to leave without paying a tip .
I realize this is all hypothetical but I think it would ensure Disney restaurant staff always get paid .
If I was traveling to a foreign country I would familiarize myself with the customs and expectations of where I was going. I wouldn't expect my destination to change according to what I feel should be reasonable.
BrianV
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http://www.emilypost.com/out-and-about/tipping/89-general-tipping-guidelines
We are both right. Emily Post (aka miss manners) says 1-2$ a drink or 15-20%.
Much-Pixie-Dust
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That is just sad to me, and I could never leave only a $25 tip for a $350 meal.
I do agree with you but sadly many would not be so diligent. With the vague nature of a tip that is both non obligatory and yet obligatory, throw in dozens of non English speaking countries its no wonder servers don't always get their tip/wage .
The Empress Lilly
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That is why waiters here fight over American customers, preferably fresh of the airplane and still unaware of local customs! =D
It's all a matter of cultural context. In America, it is not done not to abide by the X% rule. In (most of) Europe, tipping is a small token of appreciation:
Restaurant tips are more modest in Europe than in America. In most places, 10% is a big tip. If your bucks talk at home, muzzle them on your travels. As a matter of principle, if not economy, the local price should prevail. Please believe me — tipping 15% or 20% in Europe is unnecessary, if not culturally ignorant.
Virtually anywhere in Europe, you can do as the Europeans do and (if you're pleased with the service) add a euro or two ($2.5) for each person in your party.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/destinations/2014/08/23/what-to-tip-in-europe/14447597/
Virtually anywhere in Europe, you can do as the Europeans do and (if you're pleased with the service) add a euro or two ($2.5) for each person in your party.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/travel/destinations/2014/08/23/what-to-tip-in-europe/14447597/
Much-Pixie-Dust
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I realize you put a question mark on the end on the title. I read your detailed plan, as you used the word plan in the beginning of your post. I gave my opinion, as you asked for opinions regarding said plan. Asking questions is a great part of forums and you have been many people's opinions on this topic.I only put the idea up as a Question by the way, it is I hope ok to pose questions ? I did put a question mark on the title !
Lord_Vader
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Tipping is a moral obligation here, not legal that is true but leaving a penny, nickel, dime, quarter, etc. is not a reminder that you forgot but a pointed insult at the server.
mom2of2
Active Member
If you ever have unsatifactory service at WDW, speak up right away! Ask to speak to a manager and give everyone the chance to make it right. A penny does not tell a server they did a bad job...it says that you are a dirt bag period. There is never a reason why a server should PAY to serve YOU and that's excatly what happens when you chose to leave no tip or not tip at least the minimum amount based on the sale. Servers pay the sales tax and tip out 3% of the sale.
Personally I wish that grat was included in every check and that way no one forgets to leave one and no one can complain about the amount left
Personally I wish that grat was included in every check and that way no one forgets to leave one and no one can complain about the amount left
Much-Pixie-Dust
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I realize the cultural differences. I feel it is important to be respectful of a society's customs when visiting too.
BrianV
Well-Known Member
Not true. The purpose of leaving a trivially small amount is to show that you didn't forget and that they were terrible. If they are terrible, you should not tip. But again, truly terrible service is very very very rare.
The Empress Lilly
Well-Known Member
Not in Europe it isn't.
mom2of2
Active Member
Not in Europe it isn't.
But this isn't Europe, it's the USA and a server at WDW that wasn't up to par wouldn't be a WDW server for long.
That might be your idea of one, to a server it's being a disrespectful donkey and has nothing to do with their level of service
BrianV
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Well, do a google search. Pretty common practice to leave really small tip instead of zero tip.
http://moneyning.com/money-beliefs/tipping-guide-for-good-and-bad-service-from-an-ex-waitress/
Besides, if they are terrible and a disrespectful donkey, do they deserve more?
Again, we are talking about terrible terrible service...1 in 10,000.
Becoming? It passed ridiculous in the first paragraph of the first post.