SagamoreBeach
Well-Known Member
Speaking for myself, "and I am unanimous in this," tip very well at the restaurants you frequent most and you will always receive exceptional service and attention. It works for me.
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No, it's a performance based pay system. In a service industry the idea is you get paid based on how well you perform. If you suck, you get paid less, if you do well, you get paid better.
Amazing how you claim not to tip because of the system in place, yet continue to stereotype servers in such a contemptible manner. Or perhaps it's not that amazing in the end....That results in some horrible circular logic that comes out from some servers. Younger couple? well they won't tip well so I might as well ignore them. Couple of certain ethnicity "Well they never tip..." Older couple "Well they are going complain no matter what or just tip me 10% so...."
That results in some horrible circular logic that comes out from some servers. Younger couple? well they won't tip well so I might as well ignore them. Couple of certain ethnicity "Well they never tip..." Older couple "Well they are going complain no matter what or just tip me 10% so...."
Using that logic - who don't you tip? Do you tip the guy mopping the floors at your office? The guy stocking the shelves at the grocery store? They are all serving you.
My personal opinion why housekeeping tipping as a norm is fundamentally flawed
1) You are not tipping after the service is rendered
2) You are not tipping the person who actually did the work
3) It's a position paid with the expectation its a non-tipped job
You are leaving money for whomever happens to clean that room that day.. before they do it. Sure it may make you feel better.. but it flies counter to all notions of performance based pay.
No, it's a performance based pay system. In a service industry the idea is you get paid based on how well you perform. If you suck, you get paid less, if you do well, you get paid better.
Paying your salesman on commission is not a "bogus system designed by the owners that are too cheap to pay their employees a wage" - It is a system designed to reward and penalize based on performance. So is tipping.
I agree with you that paying 3x the tip because the menu is 3x the cost is stupid... but that's an artifact of the guidance model. When I order a drink at the bar... I still tip based on how many and the complexity of the drink.. not the price of the drink.
Okay. How about tipping as a means to say "Thank You." Maybe I should re- think tipping at the end of trip and tip each morning to ensure whoever cleans up after me that day receives the tip.
But I guess that is too simplistic for your rationalizations and the cleaning staff is just laughing at me for being generous when they should listen to you who knows better. They're not supposed to receive a tip at all! What is this stupid guest thinking?
Well the notion behind a daily tip is that you won't necessarily get the same person cleaning your room every day. If you're there for 6 nights, and each night Alice is your Mousekeeper and does a phenomenal job so you decide to leave a big tip on checkout but now Ariel is your Mousekeeper, Alice never knows you appreciated the job unless Ariel lets Alice know.
On the flip side I believe Mouskeeping pools tips anyway. Sure it benefits those that do a lackluster job but I would think their annual review would weed out most of the bad fruit. But it also means that superlative CMs who go through a string of guests who decide tipping is for suckers don't go home empty handed either.
Tipping is a personal choice. Everyone in America now thinks they deserve a tip. At $100+ a night for a room, I am already paying for it to be cleaned. If I was especially messy, then yes, I would leave a tip. If I keep the room nice and all they do is bring new towels and a quick clean, no. I think I will be more comfortable on this trip at a Villa so no Mousekeeping.
Tipping cost almost as much as the vacation does.
You don't have to tip a lot; while "every role's a starring one", Mousekeeping is one that doesn't often get seen, let alone properly thanked. Leaving a little bit shows your appreciation.
I think the important thing to re-consider tipping housekeeping versus others you might automatically tip without thinking twice. Do you tip the guy that brings your car around? Do you tip the guy that carries your suitcases up to the room? I think the person that cleans a room works a lot harder than any of these people. And I will continue to tip out of respect for that person to show my appreciation because I usually do not see them in person to say thank you. Do you also think they do not deserve a simple thank you?
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