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DisneyDodo
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Disney building a fifth park in the near future would make just about ZERO sense for anybody.
This would be terrible for us customers because we would now have to pay yet another park entrance fee to be able to access Disney rides. We are already paying exorbitant prices for parks that don’t have enough attractions - this would only serve to exacerbate the situation by spreading WDW even thinner.
For Disney, not only would this involve shelling out a ton of cash to build the park initially, but it would also give them yet another park to maintain. They already clearly have their hands full trying to keep the parks current as it is, why would they want to pile onto that?
It makes sense for Universal to add another gate because the parks they have now are just about filled to the brim and they’ve already replaced (or have plans to replace in the near future) just about all of the outdated/unpopular attractions. In order for them to continue to keep their resort relevant into the future, they HAVE to add another park so they have room to grow. Disney is in no need of land right now. Their parks are lacking and it will be a very long time before they are near their maximum level of entertainment. When Epcot, DHS, and AK have the number of rides that MK has, and MK’s lands are all up to par with what is expected in the 21st century, Disney can consider expanding to a fifth gate. But not before.
This would be terrible for us customers because we would now have to pay yet another park entrance fee to be able to access Disney rides. We are already paying exorbitant prices for parks that don’t have enough attractions - this would only serve to exacerbate the situation by spreading WDW even thinner.
For Disney, not only would this involve shelling out a ton of cash to build the park initially, but it would also give them yet another park to maintain. They already clearly have their hands full trying to keep the parks current as it is, why would they want to pile onto that?
It makes sense for Universal to add another gate because the parks they have now are just about filled to the brim and they’ve already replaced (or have plans to replace in the near future) just about all of the outdated/unpopular attractions. In order for them to continue to keep their resort relevant into the future, they HAVE to add another park so they have room to grow. Disney is in no need of land right now. Their parks are lacking and it will be a very long time before they are near their maximum level of entertainment. When Epcot, DHS, and AK have the number of rides that MK has, and MK’s lands are all up to par with what is expected in the 21st century, Disney can consider expanding to a fifth gate. But not before.
brb1006
Well-Known Member
If the upcoming Secret Life Of Pets LPS ride and Nintendo Land is coming this might change.
brb1006
Well-Known Member
I'm sure they will finally realize this once Shrek 4D at Orlando is finally gone for good in the future.
That should be the turning point.
AEfx
Well-Known Member
How many people pay individually for entrance to the WDW parks? Very few.
In any case, yes, WDW is going to need a fifth gate sooner or later. I'll leave it up to @ParentsOf4 to elaborate, should he wish - he is far better at explaining the facts/figures behind that need than I could ever be.
brb1006
Well-Known Member
How many people will react when the announcement and day Shrek finally closes at Universal.
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brb1006
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Here's a better version
Just replace the Hare with Universal and The Tortoise (aka Toby Tortoise) as Disney.
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AEfx
Well-Known Member
Two questions (kind of related...possibly...in my crazy mind):
1) I don't quite understand the placement of the existing open pads they have and their relation to what they just bought - Is the third gate going to be possibly able to be connected to one of the existing parks (a la Hogsmeade Express style)?
2) Is the third gate the reason that a certain Universal-owned franchise that is in the middle of a new trilogy of films has not been further developed in the existing park it currently has an attraction located in? For the life of me the only reason I can come up with is that they are saving it for a third gate...
SoManyWasps
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A fifth gate in Orlando is inevitable. It's more a matter of what and when than anything (same can be said about a third Anaheim). The question is, can they build a fifth gate that eats enough capacity to thin out the other parks as a means to improve the guest experience, but not so much that the fifth gate itself becomes a impassable horde of guests? There's also the added wrinkle of a fifth gate potentially attracting enough additional guests to the resort that we end up having all the same capacity problems we currently do, just with an extra park to navigate. I believe that Disney can find a way to make this happen successfully, but as Martin keeps saying, it depends a lot on economics.
bhg469
Well-Known Member
Holy guacamole!!! That's pretty incredible news.
DisneyDodo
Well-Known Member
It doesn’t matter if you pay for the parks individually or via park hopper/AP. The prices of the park hopper and AP would go up
brb1006
Well-Known Member
I wonder of those things that you hinted might mean they might create an IoA styled park that features other Ilumination properties that ain't Despicable Me (The Lorax doesn't count). But that might be bogus and a pipe-dream. But considering how much money each of their films get it's still strange how little you see the other films at Orlando.
ford91exploder
Resident Curmudgeon
That cant happen a moment too soon while I love Shrek as a curmudgeonly brother the ride is beyond awful even by UNI Blackstone era standards
ford91exploder
Resident Curmudgeon
Yes it is and its called managing the business
brb1006
Well-Known Member
I hated the attraction because of how loud the seats make which drowns out the audio as a result making it hard to make out what the characters are saying especially during the horse chase scene.
Thanks phoenicians
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Does this include the Cali park or is this just Orlando?
ford91exploder
Resident Curmudgeon
The 5'th gate SHOULD have been Lucasfilm park initially with a dozen Star Wars attractions at a bare minimum. That would have blown UNI out of the water.
I like star wars but i'm not a 'fan' but DW is and SW appeals from small children to great grandparents