Ticket price increase / FP+ changes coming?

[nickys]

All I can say is, I'm so thankful we didn't buy into DVC years ago when we looked into it.

I’m not seeing a correlation between DVC and the Fastpass system. Care to explain?

 

[BoarderPhreak]

I’m not seeing a correlation between DVC and the Fastpass system. Care to explain?

Because there is none. I'm lamenting the never-ending AP price increases we'd have been hit with.

 

[GhostHost1000]

Because there is none. I'm lamenting the never-ending AP price increases we'd have been hit with.

and annual increase of annual dues - just part of it

I think this is their way to handle crowds... price more families out but still make the same or more money than before

 

[monothingie]

$20? Okay, I'm fine with that.

Ask yourself what was it 3 years ago.

 

[disneygeek90]

Ask yourself what was it 3 years ago.

For gold? Approximately $600, if I recall correctly.

 

[GhostHost1000]

Ask yourself what was it 3 years ago.

Can't forgot all the fun little dining packages (which you pay more for) to get a better seat at a show that was once wide open/free for everyone first come first server.

 

[BoarderPhreak]

and annual increase of annual dues - just part of it

I think this is their way to handle crowds... price more families out but still make the same or more money than before

Well yeah, that too... Recently got a nice offer for $6,500 off the Riviera and actually thought about it for about 5s. LOL

 

[lazyboy97o]

The problem with Fastpass is that we've tasted what life is like skipping lines and most of the public would be outraged if that option went away. Already, people scam DAS as a way to skip more lines in addition to FP. They also come up with all sorts of excuses to get free FP from their hotel or Guest Relations.

The capacity issue is best exemplified at DHS. People know that FP for shows is a waste. That park only has a hand full of rides and all of them have FP, but that still isn't enough for the park to all be able to get 3 in advance which is why the tier is in place. They had to add FP to rides and shows that didn't need it to add to the capacity of the system in hope that there would be suckers that fell for a FP for Muppets. If you remove these experiences, the demand for the others only increases.

No mater how you work it out, there's a downside or a sector of guests that will lose out. Plan in advance and the day of visitors lose. Pay to play and we complain about it only serving the rich. Back to the old system, you had to be there early to get a FP for some of the most popular rides and there was no option what you got.

It's the same issue with the virtual queue for RotR. People have to at the park at rope drop in the park that only has 5 things worth rope dropping. The word has gotten out what you need to do to secure this boarding groups that the amount of guests in the park at opening is in the thousands with only a few places they go to and those attractions are swamped.

I hate to say it, but it needs to be pay to play. You can only buy up to 5 per day and Disney needs to price it based on attendance to reduce how many they sell. They also need to stop giving people free FP like candy.

People will loose out because Disney deliberately drove down attractions per guest per hour at Walt Disney World. That is the key, fundamental problem. Much fewer people would lose out if the parks had the capacity to handle a more industry standard average of 1.5 - 2.0 attractions per guest per hour.

 

[kong1802]

Lord have mercy......

The platinum pass we had in 2017 will probably be the same price as Gold will be later this year.

 

[nickys]

Because there is none. I'm lamenting the never-ending AP price increases we'd have been hit with.

You don’t have to buy an AP just because you’re a DVC member.

But if you do buy one the discount is quite substantial. Or you can get the Gold one, which only Florida residents can buy otherwise.

 

[monothingie]

For gold? Approximately $600, if I recall correctly.

Family of 4 that’s an almost $500 increase. $20, 30, 40 increases add up over time.

If you’re an out of state non dvc you just got screwed. But then again Disney doesn’t want you buying APs anyway.

 

[HauntedPirate]

Lord have mercy......

The platinum pass we had in 2017 will probably be the same price as Gold will be later this year.

Pretty much:

Platinum AP in 2016 - $749
Gold AP in 2020 - $719

 

[monothingie]

Pretty much:

Platinum AP in 2016 - $749
Gold AP in 2020 - $719

But Star Wars And construction walls!

 

[HauntedPirate]

But Star Wars And construction walls!

I keep waiting for some of the usual suspects to chime in with, "Well, they have to pay for all these projects somehow!"

 

[HauntedPirate]

For gold? Approximately $600, if I recall correctly.

Gold AP in 2017 was $559 post-price increase, or a $160 increase in 3 years. That translates to an approximate 22.2% price increase over those 3 years.

 

[monothingie]

I keep waiting for some of the usual suspects to chime in with, "Well, they have to pay for all these projects somehow!"

You ever noticed that in the quarterly reports all the areas of loss are offset by increased prices?

These increases and frequency are solely to prop up quarterly reports and the unsustainably of continual windfall profitability to appease Igerbot and make sure a certain @realBobChapek gets to play CEO one day.

 

[HauntedPirate]

Platinum AP in 2017 - $779
Platinum AP in 2020 - $1195

$416/53.4% increase

Platinum Plus AP in 2017 - $869
Platinum Plus AP in 2020 - $1295

$426/49.0% increase

 

[JohnD]

Disney Platinum Plus Pass
$1219 to $1295

Disney Platinum Pass
$1119 to $1195

Gold Pass -
$699 to $719

Silver Pass
$519 to $539

Disney Theme Park Select Pass (FL Residents)
$439 to $439

Disney Weekday Select Pass (FL Residents)
$349 to $369

EPCOT After 4 Pass (FL Residents)
$304 to $319


DVC Rates

Disney Gold Pass
$719, renewal $611

Disney Platinum Pass
$899, renewal $764

Disney Platinum Plus Pass
$999, renewal $849

All prices before tax

Silver and Gold are also FL Resident.

 

[marni1971]

Gotta love Bob. Disney is just a good Wall Street company now. Nothing more.

I pity those who didn’t know the Eisner / Wells era. That was magical without screwing the customer over.

 

[kong1802]

Platinum AP in 2017 - $779
Platinum AP in 2020 - $1295

$516/40% increase.

Here is just the regular AP:

Feb 17 - $779
Feb 18 - $849 +70
Oct 18 - $894 +45
Jun 19 - $1119 +225
Feb 20 - $1195 +76

That's $416 in 3 years, or > 50%.